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Project AS and CA Premium Tonearms
By: Tracking Angle

October 15th, 2024

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News

Pro-Ject AS and CA Manufacturer's Comment

Pro-Ject CEO Heinz Lichtenegger and an engineer respond to the reviews

Mr. Lichtenegger's comment:

"You mentioned that you were able to hear some resonances on the armtube. The AS version's aluminum tube design has typical aluminium resonance behaviour. Actually, the more sophisticated arm is the CA version of the premium series— the one piece carbon version).

‎"This one is a carbon/aluminum design and so is way better damped than either a solely aluminum or solely carbon fiber. This construction and conical shape produces resonances that are very low and diffuse. It is the best in the series of arms.

"(It's also very costly to manufacture. First ‎we CNC a conical piece of solid aluminum, then we drill it until it's a thin wand tube, then we weave the carbon around it. Sonical this arm is very different from the all aluminum AS version, which you correctly described as 'very mellow'.

"The CA version has more details and microdynamic and more open sound stage. The whole idea of the EVO range is to give the customer the choice of sound and comfort, as tonearms with an integrated head shell like the CA are in my view better, but detachable has the added convenience."

Regarding the detached counterweight stub encountered in the AS review, Pro-Ject's engineer Jan Jelínek confirmed that the review samples sent were pre-production and that the final version corrects the problem.

He wrote:

"Here better explanation of the problem and modification of counterweight support rod: 

  1. During first batch production (mainly for Munich presentation) we realized that the pressed-in joint of counterweight support rod is not stiff enough and getting loose when rotating the counterweight.

  2. We checked and improved the knurling on the counterweight support rod.

  3. We checked and improved tolerances in counterpart, so the pressed-in joint is much stiffer now.

  4. We also checked TPE damping and started using a bit softer damping to allow a smoother move of the counterweight on the support rod.

Regarding the lift bottom cap that fell off, he wrote:

Tonearm lift bottom – we will not have this problem anymore when using new grease – here probably was old grease damaged the glued joint when some leaked out and made the cup fall off.

Comments

  • 2024-10-15 05:21:51 PM

    Jeff 'Glotz' Glotzer wrote:

    Great stuff. The CA will still be on my list. I like the two-tone scheme now much better.

  • 2024-10-15 07:39:27 PM

    Come on wrote:

    I notice in magazines and online publications, that the submission of pre-production units for review doesn’t really seem to be a rarity. Sure (coincidence or not) this is mostly just revealed when the reviewed unit had a problem (which is also no rarity, no Pro-Ject topic alone).

    I often wonder why those kind of partly quite obvious problems couldn’t be eliminated in the time before a review. You would think that everything would be meticulously checked, especially prior to a review.

    • 2024-10-16 11:17:48 AM

      Kim Petersen wrote:

      This is quite usual with products I think... Cars get recalls, software gets upgraded (repaired), new things are often shipped and sold without knowing the faults that will show within just a short time of use. Important here is that it will be repaired without cost. If they had to mature each product it would never get launched :-)

  • 2024-10-15 09:03:56 PM

    David Millon wrote:

    Nice that the manufacturer did not get defensive in their explanation as so often happens. The review was helpful.

  • 2024-10-15 09:54:04 PM

    George white wrote:

    Who says vinyl reproduction has gone as far as it can go? There's a lot more to discover!

  • 2024-10-15 10:30:38 PM

    Azmoon wrote:

    "Written by: Tracking Angle". What is the reason for not providing a name? Obviously someone wrote it.

    • 2024-10-16 08:26:01 PM

      Michael Fremer wrote:

      Since that was written by Heinz Lichtenegger and we just published it, and it's not possible to assign it to him, we use generic "Tracking Angle"

  • 2024-10-16 10:59:54 AM

    Gerhard Gallian wrote:

    Hi! Just for further information: Azimuth is actually adjustible. Ther is a little allen screw on the left side of the armshaft.

    • 2024-10-16 01:36:49 PM

      Gerhard Gallian wrote:

      ther"e" ;)

      • 2024-10-16 08:27:39 PM

        Michael Fremer wrote:

        Yes, the CA review has been updated to reflect that. It's another reason an instruction manual would have been a good idea! Since i was a rear mount, the screw was not visible...

        • 2024-10-16 10:10:18 PM

          Gerhard Gallian wrote:

          Thank You! Because I use the arm happily myself since a while, I had a small advantage in this case :). Feel free to erase my former postings, to keep the thread as slim as possible... By the way: Thanks as well for all the interesting and entertaining inputs You gave me for so many years now (I'm 66). All the best!

  • 2024-10-23 12:26:12 PM

    Georges wrote:

    Since Jelco went bankrupt, the prices of detachable headshell tonearms seem to have doubled (but not our salaries, alas!). My attention was drawn to the Jasmine Audio TA-214Ja (9", in the $1,000 range) and the JS - tb297 12" (double that). The Fidelix 0 Side Force (a little over $1500) does not have a side thrust compensator but it is nicer looking and would use a more efficient pivot. It could exist in 12" but I don't have the price. All that remains is to test them!