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Way Out West UHQR

Produced By: Lester Koenig

Engineered By: Roy DuNann

Mixed By: Roy DuNann

Mastered By: Bernie Grundman

Lacquers Cut By: Bernie Grundman

By: Michael Fremer

August 25th, 2025

Genre:

Jazz

Format:

Vinyl

Analogue Productions' Sonny Rollins "Way Out West" UHQR—What A Long Strange Trip It's Been!

was it worth the time and effort?

Our reissue story starts May 27th 2015 at Bernie Grundman mastering, Gower Avenue, Hollywood, CA. Chad Kassem is there, Contemporary Records founder Lester Koenig's son John is there, I am there. Most importantly the master tape of Sonny Rollins' Way Out West is there.

I don't remember why we put these sombreros on our heads. The only connection I can think of is that Bernie had mastered the early Herb Alpert and The Tijuana Brass records, but maybe another mastering job in another room brought the hats. Bernie also was the chief mastering engineer at Contemporary but years after Way Out West was recorded in 1957 and released then on Contemporary Records C3530—a copy which on Discogs went for $549 last December).

Contemporary released the STEREO RECORDS (S7017) version in 1958. The label created the subsidiary to distinguish the mono and stereo catalogues during the early days of stereo records. The average price today on Discogs is $215 with a high of $423.53. I mention the prices because some people complain about the $150 double 45rpm 200g Clarity Vinyl UHQR price. And yes, you can buy a Bernie cut all analogue Craft OJC for under $30. It all depends on what you want and how much you're willing to pay for it.

Bernie cut the 2015 lacquers, QRP plated and pressed a few tests and jackets were printed but the record never came out due to a contractual dispute with Fantasy Records. I am not going to go into the details because I only have one side of the story. I also have a test pressing from the session.

Way Out West must be one of the most oft reissued jazz records ever. Analogue Productions released a version in 1992 cut by Doug Sax at The Mastering Lab, processed (electro-forming) by Ed Tobin at Greg Lee Laboratories.

This seems like as appropriate a review as any to say a word about veteran lacquer plating legend Ed Tobin. He oversaw stamper production for AudioQuest, Mobile Fidelity, Classic Records, Reference Recordings, DCC Compact Classics and many others during the "hungry days" of the vinyl resurgence. He was murdered by his stepson on July 27th 1995. He was 66 years old. Ed was a master at his craft and no doubt his electro-forming DNA pleasantly haunts the current crop of master platers. Glad I got to meet him during those "underground feeling" days.

There was an earlier Phil De Lancie mastered Fantasy OJC 337 edition and numerous others. And yet another Analogue Productions release in 2002 mastered by Kevin Gray and Steve Hoffman at Acoustech Mastering located within RTI.

More recently The Electric Recording Company issued Way Out West in both mono and stereo in very limited and costly editions from tape and cut on its Lyrec/Ortofon cutting system. In 2024 Craft also released (as mentioned above) a $30 version in association with Acoustic Sounds also cut by Bernie Grundman, pressed at RTI and packaged in "Tip On" jackets.

There was also a 2017 Craft deluxe box set version, the date of which should provide more than a clue about why the 2015 cut referenced at the top of the story was never released. That set was mastered by Joe Tarantino with lacquers cut by Fantasy veteran George Horn and Anne-Marie Seunram. Separate credits for mastering and cutting usually indicate a digital step but I'm not sure. What I was sure of when I played this set was that someone didn't take into account Roy DuNann's primitive but efficacious "pre-Dolby" noise reduction system, which consisted of a 6dB boost at 10kHz printed to master tape, attenuated 6dB in the playback electronics. For whatever reason, the box set version is too bright and is not at all recommended, though it includes a second LP the alternate takes of various tracks previously only available on CD.

The Music

There are obvious reasons why this recording has so often been reissued and why it will most likely continue to be reissued and find new audiences. It's a piano-less session with a young Rollins soloing over Shelly Manne on drums and Ray Brown on bass, neither of whom had previously played with Rollins. Scheduling issues forced the session to begin at 3:00 AM and after a few hours Rollins exclaimed he was "hot now" and wanted to play on, which all did. The then 27 year old was captured on tape at a performance peak, though with the exception of the Rollins penned title tune all were standards. Rollins makes mesmerizing the could be corny opener "I'm An Old Cowhand", with Manne adding the drum kit "clip clop" horse effect opener. Rollins' opening blast makes clear that the ride will be anything but a horsedrawn carriage! The melodic and harmonic ideas flow with Rollins' rich magnificent tone brilliantly captured by Roy DuNann's microphone set up and simple recording chain.

Everyone familiar with this recording knows Rollins is isolated on the left channel, while Manne and Brown are "across the hall" on the right channel. The same is true on the other new UHQR from Analogue Productions, Art Pepper Meets the Rhythm Section an oddly titled album since on it, Art never really does meet the rhythm section.

In the informative John Koenig and Bernie Grundman penned Contemporary Records full sized, illustrated UHQR booklet that covers the label history from an intensely personal perspective, Bernie Grundman explains why this L-R isolated oddity happened. The microphones fed a homemade eight channel passive console featuring rotary pots for each input and a small step pot above each to distribute the feed to left, left center, right center, or right. "Odd that there was no center option, but that's how it was", Grundman writes.

The UHQR Edition

To prepare for this review I listened to my original pressing bought for $70 at a used record store in Englewood Cliffs, NJ in the late '80s, the ERC stereo, the Doug Sax 1992 cut, the Gray/Hoffman double 45 and of course the UHQR. I do not have either OJC, which was surprising since I have many of the more recent OJCs from Craft and no doubt that one cut by Bernie is very good.

The original is a pretty "hot" cut and has a particular sonic vitality only a fresh tape can produce and I'm happy to have it. Bass is somewhat rolled off and the vinyl of that time was not nearly as quiet as the best today, so the noise floor is intrinsically higher and the trio doesn't exactly emerge from a dead quiet background.

The various reissues make clear that the tape remains in superb condition with high frequencies intact, producing "crisp" (in the positive sense of the word) cymbal and snare attack, tight bass transients and overall "Sonny is over there" transparency.

Sonny's sound on the UHQR is richer, fatter and wetter than on the 2002 double 45 and more "in the room". Over on the other side, from the first kick drum, cymbal and snare hit, it's clear Manne's drums have greater vibrancy and Brown's bass greater power. Crank up Manne's solo half way into "I'm An Old Cowhand" and feel the air move! Interesting when Rollins re-enters Manne's cymbal crashes pan to the right center position. I never noticed that! I went back to the 2002 double 45 and cranked up the drum solo. It got hard and a bit brittle. When Rollins re-entered the "rich fat and wet" was absent and when Manne crashed the cymbals, because they were comparatively indistinctly positioned they didn't appear to move center/right. That was odd but repeatable. I think it's on the tape and clarified on the UHQR. And while that in and of itself is hardly important I think it points to the UHQR's overall improved transient precision both on macro and micro dynamic information. It's just better.

I'm not here to tell you what to buy or get into relative worth and value so I'll close by saying if you want the best sounding Way Out West or at least the best I've heard, this is it. Is it worth $150 (well packaged in the new style slip case)? Given the choice between a more costly original pressing and this UHQR, other than for souvenir bragging rights, I'd go for the UHQR.

Music Specifications

Comments

  • 2025-08-25 01:46:24 PM

    Scotty wrote:

    I have the $40 stereo Craft Contemporary series version and the sound is fantastic, very close to a 10. I have quite a few UHQR's and my wife and I are happy with all of them. I have stayed away from getting any of them lately, because it is hard to justify the cost when you can get a great sounding version for over $100 less. I'll be sharing your review with my wife as Way Out West is one of her favorite jazz records, and have a feeling your review just sold me on this. So obviously you did your job here...I was hoping not to read something like this, need to stay away from here...Ha!

  • 2025-08-25 03:09:57 PM

    Scotty wrote:

    My bad, I only paid $29 for my Craft Contemporary version, so that really does make it quite the bargain! I was thinking of another Acoustic Sound Series pricing by mistake.

  • 2025-08-25 03:53:19 PM

    Come on wrote:

    All important topics covered with additional interesting background information, very well done!

    I also have all those various previous other pressings incl. the OG and agree with the findings. UHQR is on the way already and from your description I’m looking forward to it!

    That this one (and probably quite a few others) are better sounding than the ERC at least matches a previous catastrophic comparable review from MichaelIngroove (not sure if with a flavor or not).

    • 2025-08-25 03:58:14 PM

      Seamus MacGleannain wrote:

      Nice review Michael, enjoyed the read. Glad to have the 1988 OJC cut by Phil De Lancie and also the Analogue Productions 1992 version.

  • 2025-08-25 04:40:05 PM

    Lemon Curry wrote:

    Any feedback regarding the 2022 Craft box that was cut from tape by Grundman? I don't have any other version to compare it to, but I like the sound.

    • 2025-08-27 06:09:16 PM

      Come on wrote:

      I just compared them. Without going into detail again I can say, you’ll hear within the first 2 seconds how far superior the UHQR is. It’s no comparison and no matter of needing multiple runs to hear it, the UHQR destroys the Craft. I have many UHQR and there always was a big improvement but this one is the mother of hardtop reissues. I never expected improvements to this extent for an album which was already redone by so many labels and mastering engineers including Bernie himself. Would be interesting to hear from Chad how this was achieved.

      • 2025-08-27 08:05:46 PM

        Come on wrote:

        I have to add that “hardtop” should mean hardbop and that the Craft without comparison sounds fine, just as you experienced, Lemmon. As soon as you’d compare you’d hear how much better it can get.

    • 2025-08-28 10:31:53 PM

      Josquin des Prez wrote:

      I have the 2023 "Go West!" box set with "Way Out West" and "Contemporary Leaders" and think it the two albums from it sound great. I don't need to overpay $185 each for these albums again, just to have the best of the best. I'm good. The UHQR costs are out of control. Pass.

  • 2025-08-25 09:49:37 PM

    Andrew Curtis wrote:

    I have the ERC mono only. I have to say that the 33 second drum solo on Wagon Wheels at the 7.22min mark is one of the most extraordinary sounding moments in my whole LP collection. I sit on the edge of my seat as it approaches.

    Just a reminder: I H8 Analogue Productions. As I've said before.... I spent thousands with this company until one day I received an unplayable $30 LP. They refused to refund me or send a replacement unless I sent the $30 LP back from Australia (at a cost of maybe $45). Wouldn't even offer me a credit on my next order. Case closed. I have never bought one of their products in the intervening 3 years. My $ goes elsewhere. They suck!

    AP email... I'm sorry to hear of your defective record. For our International customers, we have a few different options available:

    1.) You can send back the defective item in its entirety to us at your own cost, and we will refund you the purchase price of the item. 2.) You can send back the defective item in its entirety to us at your own cost, and we will send a replacement copy on your next order exceeding $50.00

    Again, I do apologize for the defective product received and please let us know which option will work best for you and we can begin the return process.

    Thank you for your understanding, Angelina, Returns Department

    • 2025-08-25 10:51:58 PM

      Anton wrote:

      That is indefensible!

      They should have been smart enough to have looked at your history and simply said, “So sorry for the inconvenience. Sending a fresh/free copy with your next order!”

      That reply of theirs reeks of an entitled ‘screw y’all.’

      If they make it right for you, I will buy a copy of this record from them. What say you, AP?

      Very upsetting.

      • 2025-08-25 11:15:51 PM

        Michael Fremer wrote:

        Curtis is I think in Australia so consider shipping costs…. I think that was Acoustic Sounds defense

        • 2025-08-25 11:45:41 PM

          Anton wrote:

          I considered that.

          If he had a track record, trust him and toss a new copy in with his next order. Easy!

          Why bust his nut for return shipping?

          Penny wise and pound foolish, AP.

          Chad loves interviews, he could explain this situation in one of his endlessly self promoting ‘interviews.’

          The net cost of making right on a defective product that he both makes and sells would be almost nothing. He lost more than that with me alone changing my mind.

          • 2025-08-26 12:03:18 AM

            Andrew Curtis wrote:

            Thanks for the support Anton.

            In all my years of buying online, I have only had 2 other defects from big companies...

            RHF Devo had the glitch near the end of Girl U Want (noted by many on Discogs). One email and Rhino sent me a new copy immediately, no questions asked.

            And my 2nd is an amazing story... I missed out on Chet (Mono) from ERC so I ended up buying a mint copy from a seller on eBay. LP arrived with a very small corner ding... I was so upset (as it was about $1000). I emailed ERC asking if they had a spare cover that I could BUY. No questions asked... they shipped me a new cover and refused to accept any $. Wouldn't even accept $ for the FedEx costs. Classy Englishmen!

            Whenever I see Chad endlessly mugging to the camera repeating the cheesy 'Buy now or cry later' I am reminded of this incident. Yes, I am in Australia, so returning a 'melted' ABLU 47589 Art Blakey & The Jazz Messengers / Moanin' for $45 was not an option for a $30 credit. And when I see the reviews for all the Steely Dan UHQRs, I get a little sad that I'll never own one, when if fact I would've bought the whole set.

          • 2025-08-28 11:23:23 AM

            bwb wrote:

            I've received a few defective pressings from them over the years and they replaced them without requiring me to send back the defective one. Why require this from Australia when they do not require it from Indiana in the US?

        • 2025-08-28 11:34:59 AM

          bwb wrote:

          they shipped him a defective product and they demand that he pay to have it replaced or refunded? No matter their cost, that is just wrong.

          what if the replacement is also defective, which is not out of the realm of possibility? Do they expect him to keep paying until they finally deliver what he originally paid for?

    • 2025-08-26 08:25:28 AM

      Spin The Black Circle wrote:

      I can relate to your situation with Acoustic Sounds. I am also a long time customer of theirs. I’ve spent thousands of dollars over the years, but I’ve had issues with some of their pressings. I’ve found their customer service department to be adversarial and almost combative. It was very off putting, and definitely left a bad taste in my mouth. I also think it’s absurd how much they charge for shipping the UHQR records, when you can buy them from many other online sellers with free shipping.

    • 2025-08-26 10:02:35 AM

      Denis Files wrote:

      Chad is a great guy, a legend. He has done so much for our community promoting truth, knowledge and LP culture in general. However, over the years I have noticed for myself too that Acoustic Sound is no longer the company it once was and I believe that has nothing to do with Chad. It is a huge and serious business these days and maybe, maybe... Chad should "take a look" at this sort of thing at some point, although his sensibilities/interests lie elsewhere. For now I forgive them absolutely everything as long as they produce amazing vinyl records.

    • 2025-08-26 11:43:31 PM

      Steve T wrote:

      First of all I really respect Chad and Analogue Productions. They generally do a great job. I especially like the fact that Chad is making a number of remastered SACD's along with the remastered LP's of the same title. I love LP's, but also generally love SACD's when they are done right, as Chad typically does. I have always been treated well by AP and do purchase a lot of product from them, even though they are often at the same price or a bit higher price than other similar sellers. BUT this story makes me mad. It is not good customer relations and it is not even good business. When dealing with a known customer who purchases a lot of product and rarely wants to return an LP, the company should do their best to verify by email or phone the problem with the customer and if it is a defective LP (of which there are quite a few out there, including the so called potato chips) the company should trust the well known customer with a good track record and with a defective LP the company should just send out a new LP, perhaps with the next shipment to save on shipping, and not ask for the return of the defective LP. To do otherwise is just bad business and probably a monetary loss for all involved. There are a number of other LP sellers with whom I deal who have adopted this process, at least based upon my experience. I hope that Chad will reconsider.

    • 2025-08-27 04:51:14 PM

      Chad wrote:

      HI Andrew, Please contact Adrian@acousticsounds.com He should be able to help you. Thanks Chad

      • 2025-08-27 11:54:35 PM

        Anton wrote:

        Well done!

  • 2025-08-26 10:17:58 AM

    Scotty wrote:

    Denis, nice post and I agree as well that I'm very thankful for all of the great music Chad and AS has brought us. But he runs the company and he has to take a step back and thank his loyal customers a bit better. In no way should they be charging to ship a record that we already have to pay $150 for, it's not right and just runs the US cost to around at least $170. So I listened to my $29 BG mastered WOW that is AAA like the version in the box and not with a digital step like the first version outside of the box. It sounded so good, that I can't justify spending another $140 more than that version cost. I'm sure the UHQR sounds better, but I'd rather get other records instead. But at the end of the day, if people keep buying those UHQR's and don't mind paying for shipping, they will continue to charge us to ship. WTS, I have many amazing records I have gotten from AS, it's just that at times it feels like the concern is profit, which I can appreciate though to an extent.

  • 2025-08-26 01:18:58 PM

    Come on wrote:

    I listened to it today and yes, this is it!!!

    I also have an OG and all the other reissues available, but mainly compared with the 45 RPM AP, because at the end, this always was the one, which, besides 45 RPM advantages, had the most atmospheric, colorful, vibrant sound, which overruled certain disadvantages against other pressings. The only really noteworthy disadvantage to my ears was a slightly artificially EQ’ed top end.

    Now the UHQR was a big surprise, as not only this top end now sounds absolutely natural, with color and body, but the complete frequency spectrum is much more textured with completely new, additional tonal colors in the shapes of sounds, this is absolutely amazing, as well as even more 3D in the soundstage. This is a perfect reissue, everything sounds surprisingly much better with no downside. Only 2750 made, if I read correctly, not 5000 anymore, so look out!

    And on top of that, Chad listened to his customers and changed the box design, which now has perfect size and function.

    Bernie absolutely nailed this one, I hope he stored this sound in his ears for the next ones!

  • 2025-08-28 12:03:30 AM

    tim davis wrote:

    I have the 1992 AP reissue which I'm pretty sure I bought because MF told me to BITD at his PE class. I'm gutted to learn of the murder of one of the peeps involved with it. So sad. That's one more to add to the room full of ghosts (as Ian Hunter put it) that are overflowing in my record collection.

  • 2025-08-28 11:37:18 PM

    Sloan Lamb wrote:

    “This seems like as appropriate a review as any to say a word about veteran lacquer plating legend Ed Tobin. He oversaw stamper production for AudioQuest, Mobile Fidelity, Classic Records, Reference Recordings, DCC Compact Classics and many others during the "hungry days" of the vinyl resurgence. He was murdered by his stepson on July 27th 1995. He was 66 years old. Ed was a master at his craft…” — According to an LA Times article from 1995, Tobin and the stepson were living together in a trailer park at the time of the murder. Sad circumstances for a legend in many ways…

  • 2025-08-29 01:55:11 PM

    PeterPani wrote:

    Hahaha Acoustic Sounds wants $293.88 for postage to Austria. Adding taxes the postage alone is $353 for the Way Out West. Adding the taxed cost of the UHQR I would have to pay $533 for this record ordering it from Acoustic Sounds.