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Katy Lied digitally re-mastered

Label: Geffen Records

Produced By: Gary Katz

Engineered By: Roger "The Immortal" Nichols

Mastered By: Joe Nino-Hernes

Lacquers Cut By: Joe Nino-Hernes

By: Michael Fremer

February 5th, 2025

Genre:

Rock Jazz Fusion

Format:

Vinyl

Joe Nino-Hernes' Digitally Sourced "Katy Lied" Says "Re-do Them All!"

all of the lower cost digitally remastered Dan albums should have sounded this good

Until Katy Lied, the "commercial" $29.99 Steely Dan reissues were cut using Bernie Grundman mastered digital files. All of the previous Dan albums therefore should have sonically resembled the UHQR 45rpm versions issued by Analogue Productions. None did. All sounded D.O.A. They were cut by a lesser known, let's say "second tier" Long Island, N.Y. based mastering engineer. Was the problem the quality of his cutting system? After all, a lacquer cutting system is sort of a stereo playback system in reverse. Or did he make changes to the mastered files Bernie supplied? Who knows? It doesn't matter. They just didn't sound good or correct. I made that known to whoever at UMe I could contact (I did the same about Kevin Reeves's "Verve By Request" cuts too: they were at least as bad if not worse!).

UMe changed it for Katy Lied, assigning the job to Joe Nino-Hernes at Sterling Sound—a young cutting engineer with a penchant for crimson colored 60's and 70's era Ford "car boats" (Galaxies are his fave) and a well-deserved reputation for great lacquer cuts from analog tape and digital files. Instead of receiving a pre-mastered digital file from Bernie, he requested and received a flat hi-res file that he mastered and cut and the results scream "LET JOE RE-CUT THE PREVIOUS ONES!" (though that's not going to happen).

"Black Friday" made clear that this was going to be good—he somehow improved the bass thump and everything else was smartly clarified in ways that let individual instruments shine through in an orderly, well-balanced way. I'm not sure exactly what he did and I'm not doing a sonic forensic exam but if you get this edition listen to "Everyone's Gone to the Movies" and you'll hear one tidy mastering job! Vibes, congas, Fender Rhodes, absolutely sweet cymbal hits—all of it timbrally "in the pocket" and well-defined. As Fred Kaplan correctly pointed out to me the other day, the sonics generally improve as the album progresses and once you get to "Everyone's Gone to the Movies"—at least here and on the UHQR—you wonder what anyone was complaining about for all of those years.

This is a great sounding digital re-mastering job well pressed at Precision (a GZ Media company) that you're sure to enjoy. It was so good I had to return to the UHQR just to be sure it was better, and believe me it is: bigger, more vibrant images, greater three-dimensionality and solidity arrayed on big soundstage, greater sense of musical flow— all of the things you should expect if you're plunking down triple digit cash for a record.

You get your money's worth out of both productions—something not true of the previous digitally sourced versions. In fact, I think if you've bought the UHQR you should put down another $30 for this for two reasons: firstly you'll reassure yourself that you didn't waste your money, secondly if Joe is cutting the rest and one is not your fave, you might be satisfied with the $30 version. Uh-oh, my phone is ringing...I think it's Chad.....

Music Specifications

Catalog No: B0035086-01

Pressing Plant: Precision

SPARS Code: AAD

Speed/RPM: 33 1/3

Weight: 180 grams

Size: 12"

Channels: Stereo

Source: flat digital transfer

Presentation: Single LP

Comments

  • 2025-02-06 04:00:48 AM

    Dave wrote:

    Hi Michael, thanks for clarifying my question about this posed in the UHQR review and with this listen here.

    I won't ask you how it sounds against the original(s), because someone else surely will (and I don't own any copies, either.)

  • 2025-02-06 06:46:02 AM

    Come on wrote:

    I just wonder why the music is worse than on the UHQR ;-)

  • 2025-02-06 07:08:31 AM

    Matt Gregory wrote:

    Good Review Michael! I bought this version of Katy Lies last week. It sounds wonderful! It was worth the 30 bucks. The remastering sounds so good very clear and it best the original copy. But that good too. I hope Joe recuts the rest of the Steely Dan albums ! Looking forward to Royal Scam album!

  • 2025-02-06 07:42:15 PM

    AnalogJ wrote:

    Very funny, Michael. Nice to know, and the tag made me laugh.

  • 2025-02-06 07:42:17 PM

    AnalogJ wrote:

    Very funny, Michael. Nice to know, and the tag made me laugh.

  • 2025-02-06 07:42:22 PM

    AnalogJ wrote:

    Very funny, Michael. Nice to know, and the tag made me laugh.

  • 2025-02-06 07:50:17 PM

    AnalogJ wrote:

    By the way, you gave the music an '8' here, and a '9' for the UHQR. I'll have to do some research, but I think they have the same track list. 😉

    Seriously, again thanks for the review and the laugh.

  • 2025-02-06 09:08:32 PM

    Roscoe wrote:

    Thanks for the review. As another mentioned, what's up with the different ratings for the music on the UHQR and this one, 9 vs 8? Also, what do you think the chances are that "they" will re-do the earlier releases?

    • 2025-02-06 09:45:05 PM

      Michael Fremer wrote:

      was a mistake on my part and will ficks. I meant for music rating to be the same...

      • 2025-02-07 08:57:48 PM

        Roscoe wrote:

        Thanks for the reply, Michael. Also, bravo on your comment responding to Rummy Burnbridge in the NY Times. Nicely articulated.

  • 2025-02-06 09:49:37 PM

    Michael Fremer wrote:

    Obviously the music should get the same rating whether AAA or digitally remastered. Was a slip of the finger or mind....I'll blame the finger but probably was the mind.

    • 2025-02-08 03:25:24 AM

      tim davis wrote:

      Michael, at 61 I just hope I'm lucky enough to be as mentally sharp as you are when I reach your age IF I'm also lucky enough to even get there in the first place. Of course, there's already no hope for my fingers holding up as well.....

      • 2025-02-08 03:32:13 AM

        tim davis wrote:

        I have bought some of that alleged memory enhancing supplement ginko biloba but, I keep forgetting to take it.

  • 2025-02-08 03:21:54 AM

    tim davis wrote:

    Well, I'm totally sold now. This is my favorite Dan album. One thing that I don't think has been mentioned yet on this here TA is what a grand homage to Vince Guaraldi on "Your Gold Teeth II" Donald delivers. I can't wait to experience that on this version as well as the tom drum thwacks! during the guitar lead break in "Bad Sneakers".

  • 2025-02-08 05:53:43 AM

    Mark wrote:

    Hmmm, I do think a 7 for sound after that glowing review is a bit of a rug pull. Not an insignificant number of superlatives in your assessment, but the sound does reach the sunlit uplands of 8+? File me under, 'Dissenter.'

  • 2025-02-08 07:47:36 PM

    Spin The Black Circle wrote:

    I bought this version based on your review, and I must say that I absolutely love it! I compared it to my original US pressing, and I prefer this version. It sounds more dynamic and alive. I actually think it deserves a higher sound rating than 7. I have all the other Steely Dan UHQR’s other than Pretzel Logic, and I’m pleased with all of them, but I found my go-to copy of Katy Lied with this version. I can’t imagine that the UHQR is $120 better than this!

  • 2025-02-09 04:21:13 AM

    Zimmer74 wrote:

    Ah yes, Everyone’s Gone to the Movies. Michael, perhaps you remember the Orson Welles Cinema ad on WBCN back in the day that used the chorus. Sounded so sweet, until I heard the whole song. One detail—I’ve always thought the lyric was “chinos,” but online some are saying it’s “cheaters” ( tops, windbreakers).

  • 2025-02-10 06:08:49 PM

    Will wrote:

    Thanks for calling out second rate mastering/cutting - long overdue. I thought the CBaT 33 missing that essential X factor. Have been rather disappointed with a few other recent releases, with the Esoteric label Joy Of A Toy and the Catch Bull At Four 50th springing to mind.

  • 2025-02-13 06:18:44 PM

    WesHeadley wrote:

    I've always kept a place in my heart for this album and know it well. I've got an original Kendal pressing, the MFSL pressing, and the much loved SD Greatest Hits. I'll be picking up the new 33 LP this weekend. I also have the remastered CD from some 15 years ago. I agree with Fremmer that the tracks on the SD hits release sound better than anything else I've got, but to say that this album has ever sounded unscrewed up is, to me, borderline delusional. The album has always suffered from some kind of never fixed compressed sound that has prevented it from "breathing" in a normal way. Was this from the use of that infamous DBX component? I've read the accounts of what happened by various parties, and although I can't say, it is clear that something happened to the tapes that given them a constrained sound that is way out of character with everything else in their catalog, of from any other LP I've heard from those times. To date, I have never heard this LP sound great or, more importantly, "normal". Something happened to it back in the day and it was NOT just poor mastering. It's a pinched sounding record that should have sounded far better if not for whatever happened to it. Looking forward to hearing the new release and will probably be grateful for any significant improvement, but I'm not holding my breath -- the way Katy Lied does. BTW, I do own a number of UHQR pressings including Aja, which sounds great -- but spreading tracks of a 2 sided 33 album across 4 sides of a 45 usually wrecks the artistic presentation. Yes, it usually sounds from a little to a lot better, but if you love the album experience, flipping the record every 2-3 short tracks just plain sucks.