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Moondance double 45

Label: Warner Music/Analogue Productions

Produced By: Van Morrison For Inherit Productions

Engineered By: Tony May, Elliot Schierer (SIC), Shelly Yakus, others

Mixed By: Elliot Scheiner and Gary Mallobar

Mastered By: Matthew Lutthans

Lacquers Cut By: Matthew Lutthans

By: Michael Fremer

January 31st, 2026

Format:

Vinyl

Van's Earthy, Mystical Masterpiece Gets a Double 45 Release

back to basics after inexplicable "Astral Weeks" flop

Following the commercial flop of Astral Weeks, his moody, mystical, musically eclectic masterpiece, that years later found its commercial footing, to detach themselves from New York City chaos, Van Morrison and wife Janet (Rigsbee) Planet moved to the Catskill Mountains near the town of Woodstock, New York.

Earlier, following the break up of his group Them, he'd signed a contract with Bert Berns's Bang Records and in March of 1967 entered famed A&R Studios intending to record a quartet of singles, one of which, originally titled "Brown Skinned Girl" became "Brown Eyed Girl". Whatever problems Van had with Berns, he knew how to produce a tune. Berns had hired top studio musicians including Eric Gale, Hugh McCracken and Russ Savakas, and to sing backup, The Sweet Inspirations—Cissy Houston, Dee Dee Warwick and Myrna Smith.

Bert and Van didn't get along, Van was difficult then, and of course continued to be, but a sufficient number of tracks had been recorded to release Blowin' Your Mind. Van on tour at the time was unaware of the release and he wasn't happy about it. The two met up later and Berns suggested they book time at A&R and begin recording another album.

Things again didn't go well, though Morrison had laid down an early version of the astonishing "Madame George", "Beside You" and other bits of music that would later find their way into Astral Weeks.

Then Berns had a heart attack and died. Wife Eileen took over but Warner Brothers' exec Joe Smith moved in and signed Van, who still owed Bang an album. Van quickly and cynically put one together and submitted it to cover the obligation. The "songs" were dozens of short jams with titles that included, for example "Blow in Your Nose", "Nose in Your Blow", "Want a Danish" and "Ringworm". All of the Bang and subsequent tracks were released on a 3 LP set on the Italian Get Back label and later on various CD sets.

No wonder following the lack of commercial acceptance for his Astral Weeks masterpiece and all that had gone down, Van moved upstate where he put together a new band more to his liking and wrote and rehearsed material for Moondance—an R&B influenced collection of spiritually affirmative, more "earthbound" tunes compared to Astral Weeks. He was at that time a happily married man. Production commenced at New York's Century Sound Studios with many of the same jazz musicians who played on Astral Weeks, and engineer Brooks Arthur.

Van wanted out of the scenario that producer Lewis Merenstein, who did same on Astral Weeks had arranged, so he abandoned the project there and moved back to Phil Ramone's legendary A&R Studios, where spectacular sounding albums like Getz/Gilberto had been recorded years earlier. He got the R&B sound he wanted using a pair of saxophone players he'd worked with following his upstate move plus a basic rhythm section of keyboard, guitar, bass and drums.

The songs weren't fully written but the ideas had been hatched and in the studio Van and his players put it all together and how. Sitting at the board were Tony May, who had worked with Brooks Arthur at Mira Sound in the Hotel Americana, Elliot Scheiner (incorrectly spelled "Schierer" on the original and every jacket since), Shelly Yakus, who like Scheiner needs no introduction, Neil Schwartz and Steve Friedberg.

There's a great deal of mystery surrounding the album's recording. In interviews Scheiner remembers that most of the tracks were cut live, with some overdubs. He recalls that at the time A&R would assign engineers to record at different times, which explains why so many are listed in the credits. He also claims that the song "Moondance" was not recorded at A&R. When he went to re-mix the title track for a surround release Neil Schwartz was listed as the engineer.

Another A&R engineer, Dixon Van Winkle remembers it differently (his credits include mixing McCartney's "Uncle Albert"). He claims Tony May engineered it at A&R. If you're interested in this history there's a fascinating series of interviews about it in Mix Magazine part of a story by Gary Eskow.

The release in America end of February 1970 was met with unanimous well deserved praise from all of the rock critics at the time and for good reason. No point in going over that. It's too late to start now— other than to write that Van was in fabulous voice, the songs covered everything from domestic bliss to spiritual transcendence and the music was R&B infused rock with some jazz tossed in. The record holds up as well today as when it was first released, perhaps even better, the more you dig into the arrangements. You could even say it was "fantabulous."

This is an album that always sounded good, but never great, which was disappointing and odd given who was at the board and where it was recorded. It always sounded as if it was holding back dynamics, detail and upper frequencies, though it sounded "good", with an appropriately "organic" and natural timbral palette and if you cranked it well up it displayed more sonic vitality, which isn't always the case.

I've got multiple copies including more than a few -1A WB Keystone copies and even a 1C Warner 7-Arts label copy even though by that time the company was Warner Brothers Records. I also have the DirectDisk edition so I'm well acquainted. I also have the edition Tom Biery produced for Warner Brothers years ago when the label didn't care much about vinyl.

When Analogue Productions asked for the master tape to produce this record Chad Kassem was told he had two choices: one was the equalized production master used for the original pressing, also used by everyone from that time forward (and of course copies of that for overseas production), or, Chad was told, a carefully produced flat transfer of the master tape at 192/24 bit resolution produced within the past decade.

The unequalized tape (beyond what Scheiner had done in the final mix), was not among the options Warner Records offered. An explanation wasn't offered so one has to assume the label didn’t want to send out the tape because it probably had suffered some damage or perhaps it's fragile and they didn’t want to take a chance with it.

It's not as if Warner Music is against "cut and splice" operations, so whatever the possible problems, they must be more substantial than, for instance, those on the Fleetwood Mac masters where a copy was used by Kevin Gray to make "cut ins" to replace bad sections (or whole tracks) so the actual master could be used. Here that wasn't possible.

Chad and his team asked for the equalized production master tape and for a clone of the high resolution file. For Analogue Productions to release a record from a digital file was a painful decision. Before going that route, Chad cut lacquers, plated them and auditioned new pressings made from the original equalized (and limited) copy—a process more affordable when you own the mastering system the plating facility and the presses— and not surprisingly the records sounded like original pressings, though not quite as good because the tapes were 50+ years older. But they sounded good and familiar.

Chad and team then worked with the files, which without any equalization sounded to their surprise considerably better than the best original pressing they had in-house. The master tape had considerably wider dynamic range and frequency response than the production master, which someone had used a pretty heavy hand to produce. Still the file needed some EQ work to whip it into Analogue Productions quality shape and the AP team worked for quite some time getting the sound to their liking.

I admit here that Chad sent me various iterations of this production all along the way asking for my opinions, which I gave him, so consider this self-serving if you insist: but this new double 45 edition is more dynamic, delivers greater detail and lifts more than a few veils of murk from atop the music that were hiding underneath. Part of it could be ascribed to the move from 33 1/3 to 45 but mostly it's clearly better because the source wasn't a tape copy that had been equalized and limited by whoever did it back in 1970 and felt it had to be done to make it playable or whatever the reason or reasons it was done.

Do I hear "digititis"? No. Is there a feeling that the flow isn't quite as intense as on the all analog versions? Sometimes I felt that but mostly I thought that feeling was a "plug in" of my invention. Before you say "Well than why bother with tape in the first place? Why not just cut everything from a file like 'some others' do?".

My answer would be: you (or someone) pay to do it both ways using a highly regarded well loved recording, one cut from a tape in excellent shape, and one from a file and let's see how people react. In fact, I once proposed that to Chad using a famous classical recording but for one reason or another we never got around to doing that.

So I'll conclude by saying that this double 45 edition of Moondance has greater dynamic range, and wider frequency response than any of the original pressings I have and reveals more details, but subtly so, so it will still sound like the record you love. Only better.

Music Specifications

Catalog No: APP 201-45

Pressing Plant: QRP

SPARS Code: AAD

Speed/RPM: 45

Weight: 180 grams

Size: 12"

Channels: Stereo

Source: 192/24 bit files

Presentation: Multi LP

Comments

  • 2026-01-31 07:28:14 PM

    Todd wrote:

    Alright. I’m posting here because the Station to Station review is buried and nobody will see the comments. Those guys over at Analog Planet have a new review and love it. So what’s the deal? Are they deaf?

    • 2026-01-31 11:10:31 PM

      Michael Fremer wrote:

      Are you saying they liked the “Station to Station” reissue? Then yes whoever wrote that is deaf. That is pathetic.

      • 2026-02-01 02:16:01 PM

        Todd wrote:

        Yes both the reviewer and the editor confirmed it as a 9.5 for sound.

    • 2026-02-01 01:23:47 AM

      Malachi Lui wrote:

      again, i haven't yet heard the new 'station to station' reissue myself, but the bowie half-speed series is getting progressively worse. (i kinda wanna get a copy off amazon to hear how bad it is, then return it for a refund.) the new analogplanet regime also praised the 'i can't give everything away' box set which also sucked (but i wouldn't be surprised if the half-speed 'station to station' is worse). so yeah, someone must be deaf and/or too afraid to be critical cos they want the record labels to send all the promos without hesitation. obviously a warped way of thinking.

      on a similar note, i recently got the bowie 'brilliant adventure [1992-2001]' 18LP vinyl box, i didn't have the vinyl yet when i wrote my deep dive into bowie pressings a few months ago. i still think that this was one of the 'less bad' box sets in the series, but it still doesn't sound very good. everything is one-dimensional and stuffed inside the speakers. the original CD of 'outside' has way more transparency, presence, and dimensionality than the current vinyl remaster. still an okay purchase though, since the entire box at this point costs as much as an original pressing of 'earthling' alone.

      anyway, back to 'moondance'... it'll be interesting to see how the 33rpm rhino reserve compares to the AP 45 cut on the same system from the same source.

      • 2026-02-01 02:14:36 AM

        Andrew wrote:

        This is one of my favorite albums. I'm very interested to see a comparison of the AP 45 and the Rhino 33. I'd like to hear this music at its best.

      • 2026-02-01 11:51:59 AM

        Michael Fremer wrote:

        Matthew Lutthans cut this "Moondance". KG will cut the Rhino High Fidelity

        • 2026-02-02 03:34:20 AM

          Malachi Lui wrote:

          correcting you here, the rhino 33rpm 'moondance' is a rhino reserve release also cut by lutthans. not KG.

          • 2026-02-02 11:06:14 AM

            Todd wrote:

            Do you think the Rhino Reserve release is good enough if you don't want a double 45?

            • 2026-02-03 04:22:19 AM

              Malachi Lui wrote:

              it doesn't come out til the end of the month! so neither of us have heard it yet!

              again, the rhino reserve is cut on the same system from the same file as the AP 45. but who knows if there will be any EQ differences.

          • 2026-02-02 01:04:01 PM

            Michael Fremer wrote:

            I stand corrected!

      • 2026-02-01 02:17:52 PM

        Todd wrote:

        Thanks for the info and your opinion.

      • 2026-02-02 02:31:23 AM

        Mark wrote:

        On the cringe-ometer the AP review of Station to Station is pretty historic. A few tasty morsels to...chew on:

        'Overall, I am super-pleased with the sound of the new half-speed-mastered edition of Station to Station', So, by-golly-by-gosh, where should I start exploring some of the differences?...the new pressing quality is exemplary...so much more distinct that it feels almost like a remix...and this new half speed master has certainly offered new insights, bringing my Sound rating up to a very solid 9.5. I was especially happy to hear how well the album performs when pushing my amp. Even given the digital mastering stage, I detected no hard edges that would make the music hard to enjoy at louder volumes. In fact, the music rocks harder than ever' .

        The Purple Prose Gang should sue...

        PS Malachi - seeing as the grammar police (with a warrant) are in town what's the deal with the grammatical ticks - e.g. paragraphs starting in small cap? The letter 'I' (i.e. first person singular) written in small cap, record company names, artist names and album titles in small cap. Just curious if this is a generational thing...or do you need a new executive assistant.

        • 2026-02-02 03:36:30 AM

          Malachi Lui wrote:

          i just type all lowercase sometimes when i'm not writing formally. gen z does that sometimes, millennials were the ones who kinda started it. you can see evidence of this over the entire internet - twitter, instagram, tumblr, even some people's substacks. but all of my actual writing is submitted with proper capitalization.

          • 2026-02-09 10:47:00 AM

            Jeff 'Glotz' Glotzer wrote:

            Yeah, no big whup!

  • 2026-01-31 08:22:34 PM

    Come on wrote:

    To send iterations to the later reviewer is smart of Chad and I appreciate that you were so open to mention it. Nothing to say against it if the reviewer has suitable equipment and listening taste.

    That they used a digital source makes sense in the case described.

    Regarding identifying digital and analog sourced releases blind, I’d say a lot of recordings don’t have the absolute quality that this would be extremely obvious. A lot of others have it and there it’s immediately clear that AAA is on a much better level imo.

    Regarding 1:1 comparisons of records cut AAA and DxA in parallel:

    There are a few from Fone. Giulio made some early tests and they can still be found used.

    There’s also the „Nojima plays Liszt“ release from Reference Recordings done analog sourced long ago and digitally sourced later.

    In both cases the analog sourced sounds unbelievably much better. In case of the Nojima it sounds like in a different room. I suspect they changed more to the worse in the process with the digitally sourced one than just that source.

    • 2026-01-31 11:11:45 PM

      Michael Fremer wrote:

      I agree re: Nojima Plays Liszt comparison. I recall writing about it.

      • 2026-02-01 01:52:25 PM

        Come on wrote:

        Oh you’re right, you did. It needed repeatedly refined ChatGPT requests to find it and it’s just a very short mention, but this must be the article:

        https://www.stereophile.com/content/everything-mattered-music-matters-12

        I try to find out what they did. Will be Interesting, as there are so few of such opportunities.

      • 2026-02-02 09:15:00 PM

        Come on wrote:

        Talked to the incredibly friendly and knowledgable Mrs. O'Johnson. There can be a lot involved in the different results. Initially there was the analog TDK tape and the record cut from it and an early Sony digital tape made in parallel. Later there were the HRX files made from analog tape and the half speed LP cut from them.

        So as usual in such cases there are multiple steps varied and probably responsible for changes. TDK seems to be a well aging tape, so assumed it didn't age, there's still the digital step, a different vinyl mastering/cutting engineer, different equipment used, the half speed process, probably different plating/pressing, which can make the result a lot "different". I think such AAA - (A)DxA sound quality differences are not atypical.

        So far (all other high ratings for digitally sourced vinyl ignored) for me, across all genres, there were only few very good digitally sourced classical vinyl productions with special mixing/mastering treatment (like Mahler SFS and Beethoven Jaervi boxes), which come closest to a very good AAA production. The only Jazz records that come close I remember are some digitally sourced unmastered 2 mic setting MA Recordings. Even the Mofi DSD transfered LP's, which are quite good, fail to reach AAA imo.

        As I try to clarify everything that's left open here and of interest for me, I also talked to a three letter label about the new vs. old releases as I did with ... regarding OSS WL pressings and I always got answers, but in both cases I was asked not to publish. So finally I understand why you mostly can't clarify anything.

        • 2026-02-02 09:22:38 PM

          Come on wrote:

          That said, for me there are also a lot of new and old AAA productions, which don't use the AAA potential at all and could be easily bettered by well made digitally sourced vinyl pressings or even pure digital media. So finally it's always the recording quality and the quality of the process that plays the major role. But if everything is on highest level, then for me AAA always clearly wins vs. (A)DxA or DxA.

    • 2026-02-01 03:53:10 AM

      PeterPani wrote:

      Sometimes HD-files played on my Nagra DAC sound better than AAA vinyl. After playing it over weeks and months HD loses the magic. Missing ambience becomes more notable and fatigue in listening starts. Maybe a needle or a tape tonehead or a laserdisc laser take a different route over the media surface at each playing. So we listen to micro-alternative versions of t told same music every time, when listening to analog.

      • 2026-02-09 10:48:13 AM

        Jeff 'Glotz' Glotzer wrote:

        Nagra DAC... droooool. Nice insight though. Even at that level, digital lacks over time.

  • 2026-02-01 04:51:23 AM

    Will wrote:

    Another excellent review - I can recognise your description of the original - keep up the good work - I will now hit the buy button and look forward to comparing against my KG 45 cut that didn’t get released. I also wholeheartedly agree about your previous web sites decline 👏🏻👏🏻

  • 2026-02-01 08:40:06 AM

    PeterG wrote:

    Thanks--will put this on my list. Also...

    I never knew that Astral Weeks was a commercial flop. Imagine creating something that incredibly beautiful, and having the whole world say "meh"....It's tough being an artist

    • 2026-02-01 11:54:09 AM

      Michael Fremer wrote:

      Eventually people caught up to "Astral Weeks". I bought it when it was released and couldn't understand why it flopped back then.

      • 2026-02-01 03:52:35 PM

        bwb wrote:

        so which vinyl release of "Astral Weeks" should I be looking for ?

        • 2026-02-01 04:56:30 PM

          bwb wrote:

          that isn't a 2 LP 45

          • 2026-02-02 03:38:19 AM

            Malachi Lui wrote:

            original warner/seven-arts pressing

      • 2026-02-09 10:53:07 AM

        Jeff 'Glotz' Glotzer wrote:

        Thinking back to my first time listening to it in my teens, I was taken aback by the weird time signatures and perhaps most were too. Once one aligns the melodies with the tempos mentally, it is, of course, revelatory. I think the melodies soar right out of the tempos in such a free way that it is gloriously jazz and Van's rock.

  • 2026-02-01 01:31:54 PM

    John Place wrote:

    Thanks for the review Mike. You didn't mention how the new release compares to the Direct Disc. Thoughts?

    • 2026-02-02 01:06:39 PM

      Michael Fremer wrote:

      The Direct Disk is a somewhat cleaner version of the original cut from that same highly equalized, limited tape.

  • 2026-02-02 11:22:38 AM

    Steve Edwards wrote:

    "it'll be interesting to see how the 33rpm rhino reserve compares to the AP 45 cut on the same system from the same source."

    Good point Malachi. Most of our systems have varying degrees of compromises, or short comings (Mr Fremer's being one definite exception :)- ). But, that would be a great opportunity to hear how much difference our systems can render in a 33 pressing versus a 45. I'm guessing that in my system, that difference will probably not justify double the cost. I'm eager to hear an A/B comparison review.

    • 2026-02-02 01:07:29 PM

      Michael Fremer wrote:

      I figure the last few tracks on each side will have highs slightly attenuated, which is what usually happens as you get closer to the center of the record.

  • 2026-02-03 01:12:47 PM

    Todd wrote:

    👍 got it thanks

  • 2026-02-04 02:54:01 PM

    Sam Casanzio wrote:

    Michael, after reading your review where you state this was mastered from a digital file, AND it sounds great, I must ask Isn’t this the same sort of thing that Mofi was crucified for several years ago? Yes, Chad is being honest about it which is the right thing to do, but many people threw darts at mofi stating that they could now “hear” the digital chain in the One Steps. I recall mofi stating that they did the same audio evaluation as you spoke of in the above review, comparing using a copy of the master vs using the digital copy and that they felt the digital copy, as Chad believes here, won out sonically.

    • 2026-02-04 05:45:01 PM

      Come on wrote:

      Not speaking for Michael, but FYI:

      Everything is different in those 2 cases.

      Mofi did it although they could have done it at the same or better or similar quality level AAA (not so Chad in this case). Mofi pretended to have done it AAA (which they didn’t), Chad is transparent if he uses digital sources in case the tape is too bad.

      Nobody other than Mofi can verify what they claimed about their comparisons, but we can compare their releasesxwith AAA ones from AP and others. Do it and see what you hear. I know what I hear and that doesn’t speak for the Mofi in terms of openness and realism on my setup, but the Mofi are on a high level, too.

      • 2026-02-04 11:39:34 PM

        Sam Casanzio wrote:

        According to what I read, mofi stated that yes, they could have utilized a tape copy of masters they were releasing. But just like what Chad heard with this Master tape, they preferred the sound of the digital transfer. Their crime was in not being transparent, I agree with that. In regards to hearing a difference, I believe it’s more of the mastering choices as opposed to being able to hear the digital step. I guess when Moondance comes out, we can all share our opinions. I can only speak to many of the digital One Steps I own (Santana, Nightfly, Mingus, Dylan) that absolutely are superior to original pressings I have compared. Based on what Fremer is saying in this article, this Moondance, even though digital, is superior to the original.

  • 2026-02-04 10:21:54 PM

    heavymeddle wrote:

    i can understand why an unequalized master might open up the sound, clarify and offer more. and i sometimes wonder about the assumption that more detail is better. i tend to prefer a less muddy or murky sound, but hyper detail can miss out on holistic musicality. it's like a deconstructed hamburger. in the same way that it's a false assumption to think analog will always be superior to digital in all cases, it also seems a false assumption that unequalized, unlimited detail best serves the whole. i'm open but we'll see. i actually think the originals and the direct disk are very good sounding records...

  • 2026-02-05 04:15:39 AM

    Come on wrote:

    One of the main reasons why Mofi made DSD transfers was that they partly didn’t get the analog masters shipped to them. They had to go to the owner and make a copy there. This only meaningfully works with a digital step. I understand that for them and probably everyone a DSD copy was superior to a tape copy. One of the reasons why other AAA releases sound superior and why the Mofi decision and comparison there doesn’t play a role is, that those labels (like AP) got the tapes shipped to them and could use it (without a need to copy) for their vinyl cuts.

    You’re right, compared to originals, the Mofi often sound better, but that’s another case again. There you compare the partly applied limitations during cutting at the time (for the gear at the time) with what current remastering processes are able to achieve.

    To meaningfully compare AAA releases to those with a digital step, you have to chose releases which used more or less the same process at the same time analog and digital in parallel (which I did compare for the very few releases that were suitable). The next best comparison are digitally sourced and AAA projects by different labels at modern times (like to compare Mofi with AP, Impex or other releases, which I did, too). Digitally sourced vinyl releases can be great and can be better sounding than AAA releases, but in my experience are not, when same sources and similar quality processes are used. IMO Mofi simply decided for the way that enabled them to work with original tapes they otherwise wouldn’t have got. This way in the further steps of the process is also more cost efficient. And they made the best out of this. But AAA productions on that level to my ears sound a bit more open, lively, airy, natural. I admit that a setup has to be very revealing to make this obvious. In less revealing setups the difference in EQ choices and the good transparency the Mofi offer can be more obvious criteria for judging the sound quality comparison.

    • 2026-02-05 04:17:21 AM

      Come on wrote:

      Sorry, the post before and this one should have appeared under Sam’s.

      And again: why Chads digitally sourced release here has nothing to do with Mofi and can’t be compared is, that he chose the process because the digital files he used were from a better source than the tape he could have used. This doesn’t apply to Mofi. They could have partly chosen the same quality of source for producing AAA or with the digital step. In those cases they chose the latter, imo simply because they needed this process anyway for the tapes they couldn’t get and it was more cost efficient this way.

  • 2026-02-09 12:45:06 AM

    Brent Crossley wrote:

    I did intense listening comparison of the new 45 cut of Moondance also the direct disk version and the rhino KPG cut (RTI). Though this 45 is good it sounds way too silky smooth. It has a “glow” or haze of warmth that makes it like a movie from the 80s with the “hazy” glow effect. Do I like the 45? Sure it’s an interesting listen but don’t waste your money on it. Find the direct disk version or KPG rhino. The new 45 makes you feel like you are in dark studio with a tiny flame of a candle in the distance. I don’t think this was Van’s intent. Like the Television rhino hifi, this is too soft sounding. The silky warm sound eventually becomes distracting.

    • 2026-02-09 11:06:18 AM

      Jeff 'Glotz' Glotzer wrote:

      Good insights and thank you here.

      • 2026-02-09 12:27:23 PM

        Brent Crossley wrote:

        Thanks. Yeah, I am wondering if that PCM source file has digital artifact doing this or something else in the TML-M setup. Not sure how you do this or what Matt did in his eq choices. The clarity is amazing but each song has the same “color” because of that glowing artifact. The Astral Weeks suffers the same glow. Maybe it’s the tubes he uses in his setup. My setup has off the charts separation of instruments in the soundstage and the glow is everywhere in the soundstage not on the instruments themselves. Very interesting. I have noticed this glow on other digital cuts. But I do not see this glow on the DSD (Mofi) based cuts. I am a little baffled. @Mike F says veils off…but hard to believe that hazy glow isn’t a veil itself. The direct disk and KPG (RTI) was more pleasing to me in general because the color of the background is not present.

  • 2026-02-10 09:25:50 PM

    Frank A wrote:

    The Hoffman/Gray AAA was not part of this comparison?

    https://www.discogs.com/release/2354221-Van-Morrison-Moondance