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Mahler 6 Symphonies DGG Von Karajan
By: Mark Ward

January 31st, 2025

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4 Tape Machines and 1 Cutting Lathe: Remixing Karajan’s Mahler 6 at Emil Berliner Studios

Go behind the scenes at the most complex mix yet for the Original Source Series

Karajan Berlin Philharmonic Mahler Symphony 6 Original Source DG

Batch #7 of the Original Source Series from Deutsche Grammophon is almost upon us, with Karl Böhm conducting Mozart’s Requiem and Michael Tilson Thomas conducting Tchaikovsky’s Symphony No. 1 to be released next week, and Tchaikovsky’s Romeo and Juliet plus Scriabin’s Poem of Ecstasy from Claudio Abbado in Boston due the week after.

Also coming out on February 14th is Herbert von Karajan’s truly monumental recording of Mahler’s 6th Symphony, which I consider to be his finest Mahler recording along with the live 9th from the end of his career. (It's one of the highlights of his entire catalogue).  The moment I knew that Emil Berliner Studios had developed the capability to remix and cut directly from 8-track masters (as they had done for the Karajan/Bruckner Symphonies box set) this recording shot to the top of my want list for Original Source reissue.

It turns out that restoring this recording to sonic glory was a little more complicated than simply firing up the old 8-track and cutting lathe.

Rainer Maillard and Sidney C. Meyer at work in Emil Berliner Studios

In this video, Rainer Maillard and Sidney C. Meyer walk you through the process of remixing and recutting this complex project, which had to seamlessly integrate separate tapes of church bells and cow bells that were made for the original sessions and live performances.

Cow bells and church bells, you say?

Well, it is Mahler after all…

You can order this record, plus all the other original Source titles, at DG's German site here, and at Acoustic Sounds and Elusive Disc in the US.

Comments

  • 2025-01-31 05:18:13 PM

    Matthew Conroy wrote:

    Really looking forward to this next group in the series. One of the highlights of Karajan's recording career and - along with his Mahler 9 - a recording I turn to again and again.

    I understand why they are prioritzing orchestral performances but I would really love to see more piano and chamber music. I hope their future plans include the Pollini Stravinsky/Prokofiev pairing and Gilels lovely Grieg. Both are on my "desert island" list.

    • 2025-02-01 09:21:33 PM

      Thomas Ream wrote:

      I second your view. I have a new-found appreciation for Gilels as a pianist after listening to the 3 OSS releases where he is featured, and Pollini is Pollini. I have been recently listening to Pollini's set of late Beethoven sonatas, which to my ears is splendid. I have never heard either of the LPs you mention, famous as they are, and I would be in for those as well. (So far I have been in for 100% of the OSS series, so there you go.)

    • 2025-02-02 06:24:17 PM

      Mark Ward wrote:

      Both of those records are, I believe, 2-track - BUT never say never...

      • 2025-02-03 11:34:00 PM

        Matthew Conroy wrote:

        Ah I didn’t know that. Unlikely then I’m guessing.

      • 2025-02-03 11:34:01 PM

        Matthew Conroy wrote:

        Ah I didn’t know that. Unlikely then I’m guessing.

      • 2025-02-03 11:34:03 PM

        Matthew Conroy wrote:

        Ah I didn’t know that. Unlikely then I’m guessing.

      • 2025-02-03 11:34:05 PM

        Matthew Conroy wrote:

        Ah I didn’t know that. Unlikely then I’m guessing.

  • 2025-01-31 07:54:02 PM

    markhold wrote:

    Very much looking forward to this record, and the review! Currently trying to decide which other releases from the next batch to purchase

  • 2025-02-01 04:43:38 AM

    Bryan M. wrote:

    FYI - looks like the release date for the U.S. has been pushed to March 21st for all these titles. The Ravel box is now not due out until April.

  • 2025-02-01 10:10:09 PM

    Josquin des Prez wrote:

    Sadly, the relases for us in the U.S. are delayed by another six weeks to 3/21.

    More cowbell!

  • 2025-02-01 10:35:44 PM

    It’s a trap wrote:

    Christmas be coming in February this year! That short video with the 4 tape machines has me pumped.

    • 2025-02-03 10:34:00 AM

      Mark Ward wrote:

      Me too!

  • 2025-02-02 12:39:47 AM

    Swann36 wrote:

    Great article Mark, I watched the video and i have it on pre order , roll on Release day

    • 2025-02-03 10:35:00 AM

      Mark Ward wrote:

      Roll on indeed... I am so excited about this one.

  • 2025-02-02 02:34:01 PM

    Jim wrote:

    Mark: do you know if there any plans by DG to release the wonderful Debussy album from 1970 with the Boston Symphony Players( with MTT on piano as a part of its OSS?( Now that they have an upcoming MTT release.

    • 2025-02-02 06:25:40 PM

      Mark Ward wrote:

      Wonderful record! It's on the wishlist I submitted to DG some time ago. We can hope...

      • 2025-02-02 08:40:05 PM

        Jim wrote:

        Excellent-fingers crossed!

      • 2025-02-02 08:40:07 PM

        Jim wrote:

        Excellent-fingers crossed!

      • 2025-02-02 08:40:09 PM

        Jim wrote:

        Excellent-fingers crossed!

      • 2025-02-02 08:40:12 PM

        Jim wrote:

        Excellent-fingers crossed!

        • 2025-02-02 08:41:15 PM

          Jim wrote:

          Sorry for duplicates

          • 2025-02-03 10:34:20 AM

            Mark Ward wrote:

            It happens...

  • 2025-02-02 09:54:30 PM

    dean kagawa wrote:

    great video. WOW.

    • 2025-02-03 10:33:21 AM

      Mark Ward wrote:

      Isn't it? You get such a clear idea of the process.

  • 2025-02-02 09:54:50 PM

    dean kagawa wrote:

    have this on pre-order.

    • 2025-02-03 10:33:38 AM

      Mark Ward wrote:

      Hurrah!!!!

  • 2025-02-03 08:49:00 PM

    EAD wrote:

    Thank you, Mark, for informing us about this wonderful video!! I am really looking forward to the Karajan, Tilson Thomas and Ozawa.

  • 2025-02-04 11:46:24 PM

    Lemon Curry wrote:

    I'm truly blown away by the complexity in cutting a disk direct from the synched up masters. These engineers are a part of the performance as well.

    One thing I noticed.. is it customary for one to be so close to the lacquer as it's being cut? Right over it, with no mask or hair net to keep those microscopic crawly things from raining down. Maybe that just isn't a problem?

  • 2025-02-05 03:26:24 PM

    Paul Seydor wrote:

    Mark: I am listening again to this recording (via Qobuz) to see if I like it any better than I did when I first heard it when it first came out decades ago and I hated it. In a long piece on Bernstein's Mahler for The Absolute Sound I said that Karajan's had some of the most insipid wind playing I have ever heard (in the slow movement). Well, a lot can happen in the thirty or forty years since I wrote that piece. Hell, I even like Simon Rattle's latest go at this piece (I've petitioned TAS to let me review it), and he even commits the unpardonable sin of putting the Andante second instead of third, where it belongs, and Karajan at least doesn't do that. I admit that in those days Bernstein's Mahler imprinted itself on me, and no one else need apply. A close, now sadly dead, friend of mine who used to review for TAS compared Bernstein's and Horenstein's sixths--he liked them both about equally--and referred to the former as a "scorched earth" interpretation. I wish I had written those words, because there's the rub: as a shatteringly, devastatingly powerful experience in which you feel the full weight of tragedy in Mahler's depiction of a world on the verge of destruction and then fully destroyed, Bernstein stands alone and no one comes close. And every time I listen to this recording--the CBS/Sony, though the DG is in the same league--I am similarly affected. Karajan just doesn't come close. That said, I freely grant that listening to it now I no longer hate it. It is very beautiful, and, no, the wind playing is not insipid. The andante is beautiful as only Karajan could make it. But, as is often the case with this conductor, beauty as such is part of the problem. Karajan once said something to the effect that he wasn't against sounds that need to be ugly but that they should be ugly in a beautiful way. Well, all right, but sometimes that just isn't enough. In Mahler's music--the sixth above all--I want to be immersed in that apocalyptic vision.

  • 2025-02-05 03:26:53 PM

    Paul Seydor wrote:

    Part 2 of may comment: Let me give an inexact comparison as regards an artist we both admire. Back in the seventies a very good movie critic named William S. Pechter wrote a review in which he compared Peckinpah's Straw Dogs with Kubrick's A Clockwork Orange, which came out at the same time. Of course, the middlebrow critics all pilloried Peckinpah and fawned all over Kubrick. (I hate A Clockwork Orange and feel no differently now than I did then, but I’m not much of a Kubrick fan—too much “intellect” [about ideas that are rarely of the first complexity], not enough passion.) Pechter's conclusion, with which I absolutely agree, was that Kubrick lectures us that we are in a hell of our making, while Peckinpah joins us in the flames, writhing. Karajan conducts a beautiful Mahler sixth, with glorious playing, and yet, apart from beauty, I always find myself at a remove from what the music seems to me to be trying to express. With Bernstein, I am in that world, in agony and for hours after listening to it I am in still under its terrible spell. That said, I eagerly look forward to your review, my friend, and hope that I come away from it able to listen to that performance through your ears. You are a treasure to Tracking Angle readers, and I salute Michael for finding you.

    • 2025-02-06 05:43:37 AM

      Mark Ward wrote:

      Aw thank you Paul, and great to read your comments. This may be one we end up agreeing to disagree. Just finished auditioning the Karajan and I am speechless. Naturally I will be listening to the Bernstein again (in its latest vinyl incarnation) before I put pen to paper. Definitely time to watch Straw Dogs again - never thought Mahler and Peckinpah would come up in the same paragraph!!! Interesting that you like the Rattle so much - it has been getting great press and it is one of his specialties. But putting the Andante second it is cardinal sin - did you just switch the listening order? Planning to go hear Mahler 7th with Dudamel live in a few weeks - really looking forward to it... First concert in years...

    • 2025-02-12 01:40:56 AM

      Johnny wrote:

      I second the salute! It’s been a treat to read your posts here, Mark. And you too, Paul. Thx for chiming in. And on a mostly unrelated theme ( I just don’t know where to get this info), any thoughts on the Vinyl box set of Beethoven String Quartets by the Alban Berg Quartet recently issued on vinyl by Warner?

  • 2025-02-05 11:05:43 PM

    Jennnifer Martin wrote:

    Thanks, Mark! I'm looking forward to this batch very much, particularly the MTT/Tchaikovsky. It's a fine performance. Jenn

    • 2025-02-06 05:44:18 AM

      Mark Ward wrote:

      It's gorgeous! Review going up in a day or so.

  • 2025-02-12 01:23:32 AM

    Johnny wrote:

    Ordered! That damn video put me over the top. Someone please tell me they’ve heard the Berlin Philharmonic Mahler box on vinyl which was released recently?! I’m chomping at the bit to know the quality of the sound on vinyl.