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Gustav Mahler: Symphony No. 6 in A minor "Tragic"

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Mahler 6 BPO/ Von Karajan

Label: Deutsche Grammophon GmbH

Produced By: Dr. Hans Hirsch, Magdalene Padberg, Cord Garben (Reissue: Johannes Gleim)

Engineered By: Günter Hermanns

Mixed By: Günter Hermanns

Mastered By: Rainer Maillard (Emil Berliner Studios)

Lacquers Cut By: Sidney C. Meyer (Emil Berliner Studios)

By: Mark Ward

February 15th, 2025

Genre:

Classical

Format:

Vinyl

The Original Source Does Mahler on Steroids

Herbert von Karajan and the BPO Conquer All in this stunning Recording, one of the conductor’s very best

Gustav Mahler (photographed in 1907 by Moritz Nähr at the end of his tenure as director of the Vienna OperaGustav Mahler (photographed in 1907 by Moritz Nähr at the end of his tenure as director of the Vienna Opera)

The past and present wilt—I have fill'd them, emptied them.
And proceed to fill my next fold of the future.

Listener up there! what have you to confide to me?
Look in my face while I snuff the sidle of evening,
(Talk honestly, no one else hears you, and I stay only a minute longer.)

Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)”

Walt Whitman (#51 from Song of Myself)

Like Walt Whitman, and indeed every human soul, each Mahler symphony is a world unto itself, large and containing multitudes.  Each symphony tells a profoundly humanistic story of life’s struggles - with fear and hope, love and loss, death and anxiety about what may come thereafter - while also celebrating the worlds of nature and beyond.  It is the eternal struggle to find meaning in chaos.  I think it’s the reason these works have become so popular in our age of modernism, technology, the death of faith.  Mahler’s music is a vivid self-portrait of him grappling to find meaning in a world he finds ever more confusing and alienating, even as he clings to the possibility of beauty, grace, love and redemption.

Nowhere is this struggle more acutely portrayed than in the 6th Symphony, a work of coruscating passion, despair and - ultimately - nihilism.  As the composer himself put it:

"It is the hero, on whom falls three blows of fate, the last of which fells him as a tree is felled."  

In this work, to which the composer eventually gave the subtitle “Tragic”, there is no trace of the “Resurrection” that transfigured his hero at the end of the 2nd Symphony. As his friend and early champion, the conductor Bruno Walter, put it:

“...the Sixth is bleakly pessimistic: it reeks of the bitter cup of human life. In contrast with the Fifth, it says ‘No,” above all in its last movement, where something resembling the inexorable strife of ‘all against all’ is translated into music. The mounting tension and climaxes of the last movement resemble, in their grim power, the mountainous waves of a sea that will overwhelm and destroy the ship; the work ends in hopelessness and the dark night of the soul. Non-placet is his verdict on this world; the ‘other world’ is not glimpsed for a moment.”

Mahler and Bruno Walter in Prague, 1908Mahler (l.) and Bruno Walter in Prague, 1908

And yet, for all its nihilism, I find this to be one of the most invigorating, most compelling, most life-affirming of all Mahler’s symphonic utterances. The struggle is all.  A good performance will put you through the ringer, for sure; but a great performance will scramble your guts, claw at your soul, and force you on a journey that encompasses your entire life and consciousness.  Though it will fell you mightily with those final hammer blows (more on these later), its implicit challenge will be to pull yourself out of the rank pit of despair and fight once more.

“Rage, rage against the dying of the light!”

I think this record captures one such performance, and in its new Original Source incarnation, Karajan and the Berliners’ scorching rendition emerges even more fiercely to challenge Dark Fate to do Its worst.

Bring it on!

The irony of all this is that the symphony was written during an especially happy period of Mahler’s life.  Recently married to Alma Schindler, with one young daughter the composer doted on, and another on the way, the composer was also at the height of his success as a conductor at the Vienna Opera. 

The Mahler House at MaierniggThe Mahler House at Maiernigg

Yet in 1903, during his habitual summer break at Maiernigg dedicated to composition, in the idyllic surroundings of the Austrian mountains, he began to write a work which, while representing in many ways a summation of the five symphonies that had preceded it, displayed a pessimistic hue.  In addition to the work’s struggle with existential dread, was this perhaps also a “putting to rest” of his compositional journey thus far so that he could move forward unencumbered?  There is definitely a sense at the end of the work of having laid waste to all that has gone before.

Mahler's Composing Cottage at MaierniggMahler's Composing Cottage at Maiernigg

The work unfurls as an intense psychodrama, depicting a “hero” caught between forces of destruction and Fate that would drag him down, yet also consumed by passionate love and aspirations of transcendence. The hero desperately fights for something beyond a mere act of survival. 

The symphony is cast in four movements, though the order in which they are played remains a source of contention.  The opening Allegro is a relentless march, eerily prophetic of military jackboots. Karajan and the BPO launch into it with ghoulish double-basses, a relentless forward motion that conveys a sense of the orchestra being untethered. The strings both bite and soar. Listen out for the beautifully textured tam-tam and the snarling xylophone, just part of a rich, constantly shifting orchestral landscape. A "March into Hell" with stunning vistas.

All of this is contrasted by the second subject, a soaring lyrical melody that recurs throughout the whole work, representing the composer’s wife, Alma, who recalled:  “After [Gustav] had drafted the first movement, he came… to tell me he had tried to express me in a theme. ‘Whether I’ve succeeded I don’t know; but you’ll have to put up with it.’”

Gustav Mahler with Alma in 1909Alma and Gustav in 1909

The almost demonic Scherzo - all fragmentation and dissolution - was originally placed second in the first published edition, but during rehearsals for the first performance in 1906 Mahler moved the slow Andante to that position, placing the Scherzo third, where it remained in later editions.  The order in which these movements should be performed remains unsettled, and different conductors do it differently.  Leaving the Scherzo second emphasizes the radical way in which the symphony disrupts normal custom (and if nothing else this is a profoundly disruptive work).  It also accentuates the sense that the Scherzo acts as a hair-raising “dark universe” reflection of the first movement. 

Listen out for the intricate string work, with sonically vivid col legno (when players use the wooden side of the bow to hit the strings). The demonic progress degenerates into a demented tango. Timpani hits in the Original Source mastering have depth and texture; tam-tam, bass and brass growl like Fafner awakening to face young Siegfried - but in this world of the Upside-Down the dragon will slay the Hero. A thrilling solo trumpet rings out clear and true, unrestrained in any way by the mediation of recording technology. As the movement limps towards its conclusion there is a sense that we have heard the orchestra being dismantled piece by piece, until all that's left is a halting low bass - then silence.

This world does indeed end with a whimper, not a bang.

Then the third movement Andante acts as a much needed respite before the epic journey of the Finale

This is the movement order that Karajan follows, and it is certainly the order I prefer.

After the nihilism of the first two movements, replete with ghastly pre-echoes of the war that would consume Europe within a few years of the composer’s death in 1911, the Andante appears like a slow blooming Spring flower in a high Alpine pasture, pushing its buds through the melting slow.  Here the Berliners' high violins float both effortlessly and intensely. The glistening silver strains of the celeste, far from the Nutcracker's Kingdom of Sweets, fall like dew. It is one of Mahler’s most sublime creations, less obviously effulgent than the slow movements of the 3rd and 5th Symphonies, but it builds inexorably to a climax (with a radical, heart-stopping key-change) that never fails to bring a lump to my throat, tears to my eyes: a musical depiction of Alpine meadows in full colorful bloom after the wastes of Winter.  You’ll know it when you hear it.

Even the minutely imperfect tuning of the final chords is irrelevant. Karajan was famous for letting less than perfect takes stand if the music was right. Let it also be noted that he was famous for recording in much longer takes than other conductors, lending a "live" quality to the sessions - a factor much in evidence here.

At this point it is necessary to remind oneself of Alma Mahler’s words:

“The Sixth is the most completely personal of his works, and a prophetic one also.  On him too felled three blows of Fate, and the last felled him.  But at the time he was serene; he was conscious of the greatness of his work.  He was a tree in full leaf and flower.”

Mahler with his daughter Maria at Maiernigg in 1905Mahler with his daughter Maria at Maiernigg in 1905 She would die a short two years later.

That moment of serenity at the end of the third movement is the point from which the huge last movement begins its tortured journey.  A low pizzicato in the strings, a cascade from harps and celeste, announce a soaring string line grasping at the heavens that is cut down by a massive major chord in the wind and brass that then turns to the minor, - victory turning to defeat - accompanied by the march rhythms from the first movement in the timpani.  The string line collapses downwards, ending up by disintegrating into the halting ‘cellos and basses.  Karajan’s way with this is unmatched, at a perfect tempo, with the rich Berlin strings conveying rapt intensity.

That motto of major turning to minor recurs many times as the movement charts a series of monumental efforts to build the necessary strength and determination to overcome the crushing heel of Fate.  The sheer orchestral virtuosity on show here is breathtaking, as the hero and his music gathers themselevs over and over again to try and overcome their destiny.

But then three times during the course of the movement come a series of massive hammer-blows that strike down the “hero” just as he is within sight of his goal.  For this, orchestras have to own or build a special wooden apparatus - literally a wooden hammer and resonant chamber to bring it down upon.  The BPO built such a device for this recording and its associated live performances, and I should warn you the sound is so percussive and massive that at higher volumes your speakers might be in danger.  (As is generally the custom - dictated by Mahler himself - the third “hammer blow of Fate” is conveyed by drums and regular percussion only, indicative of the level of exhaustion in the “hero” at this point; Leonard Bernstein, however, in his DG recording, reinstates the hammer itself).

The Berlin Philharmonic's "Hammer", about to be used in a performance conducted by Simon RattleThe Berlin Philharmonic's "Hammer", about to be used in a performance conducted by Simon Rattle

As Alma Mahler described, her husband would indeed be felled by three hammer blows himself within a year of premiering this symphony: the death of his four-year-old daughter Maria, his departure on unfriendly terms from his post at the Vienna Opera, and a diagnosis of the heart condition which would kill him within five years.

Mahler's Death Mask, made in 1911 by Rudolf MollMahler's Death Mask, made in 1911 by Rudolf Moll

What is it that makes Mahler’s music so unique?  Insight is to be gleaned from these remarks by the great 20th century American composer, Aaron Copland:

“It is music that is full of human frailties ... so ‘Mahler-like’ in every detail. His symphonies are suffused with personality – he has his own way of doing and saying everything. The irascible scherzos, the heaven-storming calls in the brass, the special quality of his communings with nature, the gentle melancholy of a transitional passage, the gargantuan Ländler, the pages of an incredible loneliness... Two facets of his musicianship were years in advance of their time. One is the curiously contrapuntal fabric of the musical texture; the other more obvious, his strikingly original instrumentation…

“It was because Mahler worked primarily with a maze of separate strands independent of all chordal underpinning that his instrumentation possesses that sharply etched and clarified sonority that may be heard again and again in the music of later composers. Mahler’s was the first orchestra to play ‘without pedal,’ to borrow a phrase from piano technique. The use of the orchestra as many-voiced body in this particular way was typical of the age of Bach and Handel. Thus, as far as orchestral practice is concerned, Mahler bridges the gap between the composers of the early 18th century and the Neoclassicists of our own time.”

KARAJAN AND MAHLER  

Herbert von KarajanHerbert von Karajan

Herbert von Karajan turned to the 6th Symphony in the mid-1970s, at a time when he himself was struggling with serious back problems that almost killed him.  The conductor - then at the height of his powers and flourishing as Principal Conductor for Life of the Berlin Philharmonic - had turned to Mahler relatively late in his career, maybe in part to respond to the sudden ravenous public appetite for his music from the record-buying public.  (Karajan was never one to miss a commercial opportunity).

His early recordings of Mahler - spear-headed by his account of the 5th Symphony, one of the first Original Source releases - were, both in terms of performance and recordings, a mixed-bag.  Not so this 6th, recorded a few years later.  From the moment it was released it was hailed as something very special indeed.

In his essential biography of the conductor (as insightful a study of what a conductor actually does as any), Richard Osborne makes the valid connection between the symphony’s aura of doom and the health adversities Karajan was facing at the time, as well as his own personal memories from childhood of the impending outbreak of World War I.  Osborne is so eloquent on all this, I will make no attempt to paraphrase, and instead will quote in full:

“…the symphony as a whole touched him profoundly at several levels.  With its marching and counter-marching, its major triad souring on the instant into the minor, it is a work that predicts war: that strange, unsettling word the young Heribert von Karajan heard his uncle mention that fateful day in July 1914 as the funeral convoy of the assassinated Archduke passed by the island of Brioni.  Ezra Pound once said that a great artist is like the member of the tribe who smells the forest fire long before anyone else…

“And there is more.  It is a symphony in which the hero is struck down by three hammer-blows of fate.  It depicts married love, and its obverse: isolation and total solitude.  The first movement development section is remote mountain music.  Schoenberg marveled at the scoring here, its icy purity and the quiet clunk and jostle of cowbells, the last terrestrial sound, said Mahler, to penetrate the solitude of the mountain peaks.

“There can be little wonder that Karajan felt drawn to all this.  What is surprising is that he did not feel threatened by it.  He was a superstitious man with a weakness for astrology.  Having been struck by one hammer-blow (the life-threatening spinal condition), he was about to be struck by a second.  But the music drove him on.  In the months before the recording in September 1977, he conducted the symphony in Berlin, Salzburg, London [I tried unsuccessfully to get tickets - MW], Paris and Lucerne.  The following year he included it at the Salzburg Whitsun Festival, after which would come more serious illness.  By rights that should have been that; but he went back to the work, in Tokyo in 1979 and in Berlin in the autumn of 1982 when, astonishingly, he conducted the Sixth and the Ninth symphonies within days of one another.”

Included with this Original Source reissue is Richard Osborne’s original accompanying sleeve-notes on the symphony itself, an essay which I could have easily quoted in full and left it at that.  It’s as eloquent an illumination of the 6th Symphony as any you are likely to read anywhere.

Gatefold of Original Source Reissue of Karajan's Mahler 6th SymphonyGatefold of Original Source Reissue

Karajan’s profound insight into, and identification with, this work is evident in every second of this recording, and the Berliners play their hearts out for him.  Recorded in the Berlin Philharmonie, the original LP release was always one of the better-sounding DG records of the era.  This new Original Source version, mastered and cut as always directly from the original master tapes (in this case 8-track) by Rainer Maillard and Sidney C. Meyer at Emil Berliner Studios, takes things to a whole other level sonically.  It is revelatory.  (My pressing was immaculate).

Karajan outside the PhilharmonieKarajan outside the Philharmonie

As was evident in the Original Source reissue of Karajan’s complete Bruckner Symphony cycle, Maillard and Meyer have found the sweet spot for revitalizing the somewhat problematic acoustics of the Berlin Philharmonie of the 70s, which by the time of these sessions in 1977 had supplanted the Jesus-Christus Kirche as Karajan and DG’s recording venue of choice.  By using a combination of folding in the usual two channels of room ambience recorded on the original master tapes (originally intended for a quadraphonic release that never happened), together with using the stairwell at Emil Berliner Studios as an echo chamber, Maillard has found the perfect blend of direct and reflected sound to make this huge orchestral canvas shine.

Rainer Maillard at Emil Berliner Studios mixing and mastering Karajan/Mahler 6th SymphonyRainer Maillard at Emil Berliner Studios mixing and mastering Mahler's 6th Symphony

Mahler’s enormous orchestra is laid out before you in a massive three-dimensional space, deep and wide. The aural palette is the 3-strip Technicolor of Jack Cardiff's stunning cinematography in Black Narcissus and The Red Shoes - a slightly heightened reality, bright, assertive, a little more than lifelike in the manner of an Old Master who gives you both beauty and truth. You are getting a spectacular tour of all the amazing sounds an orchestra can make, with full dynamics. Let me just mention again that xylophone, which spits out its chattering skeletal volleys with special vehemence, prefiguring Berg’s use of the instrument in the similarly noir "March" in the Three Orchestral Pieces - another superlative Karajan recording which, I very much hope, will get the Original Source treatment along with the entire Second Viennese School box set, fingers-crossed.

Did I mention the cow bells and church bells that feature in the score?  Normally these are accommodated in various usually unsatisfactory ways, but Karajan’s fondness for technology inspired a most elegant solution.  Recording engineer Günter Hermanns and his team recorded actual cowbells and church bells on a separate tape, which was then piped into the live performances via loudspeakers in the hall.  For this Original Source remastering, Maillard had to blend in these tracks running on a separate tape deck, together with all the other tape elements he was juggling.  The end result is seamless, with completely realistic aural perspectives for these sounds, varied according to the different sections of the score they are featured in.  The process by which this was all done is explained in this fascinating video.

This is the recording of Mahler’s 6th I imprinted on when I was a teenager.  I own several other fine versions of this work on LP and CD: most notably Leonard Bernstein with the Vienna Philharmonic live on DG. It's a favorite for many, especially TA colleague Paul Seydor, and don't get me wrong, it's a fabulous performance. Alas it is early digital, but was beautifully remastered by the Emil Berliner team for a box set vinyl release of all of Bernstein's DG Mahler Symphonies a few years ago, and reviewed here by my colleague Michael Johnson (you can still find it).

Mahler 6th Symphony Leonard Bernstein Vienna Philharmonic DG

Georg Solti brings us a fiery version with the Chicago Symphony on a vivid sounding Decca pressing from the 1970s. 

Mahler Symphony No. 6 Solti Chicago Symphony Decca

Tennstedt on EMI is highly regarded, and the symphony has become something of a Simon Rattle specialty - there are two performances released on the BPO’s in-house label. Paul Seydor speaks highly of Rattle’s most recent version with the Bavarian Radio Symphony Orchestra (I've not heard it). 

But this Karajan/BPO reading has always remained my preferred recording.  In its new incarnation it is simply out-of-this-world stunning. Karajan and the Berliners are the ones with the extra adrenaline rush, the manic ferocity, the heart-rending sense of love and loss. This is Life itself.

Mahler Symphony 6 Karajan Berlin Philharmonic DG Original Source

One of the features that has emerged in the course of the Original Source series is that by mastering and cutting so faithfully from the original master tapes (with no intermediate stereo mix-down), and by folding in the information from the ambient tracks, we are able to hear every little detail in the recording techniques used in the original recordings - for better or worse.  As I wrote in my review of the Original Source reissue of Karajan’s Mahler 5th, while the sonics were massively improved, I could hear even more clearly the ways in which the acoustics of the Jesus-Christis Kirche had impacted on the recording.  Also I could hear how the engineering team seemed to have manipulated shifts in perspective (to bring out certain orchestral detail) in a manner that occasionally derailed the integrity of the sonic picture the recording was presenting.

There’s none of that here.  This is such a vivid, truthful presentation of a huge orchestra playing at full tilt, yet with every tiny instrumental detail emerging organically, that I predict this set will become de rigueur for every High End audiophile dealer endeavoring to demonstrate what his or her equipment is capable of.  Over and over again I was gasping at the power, precision and realism of what I was hearing. Sidney Meyer’s cutting fully accommodates the massive dynamic range, and the long side length of the fourth movement (clocking in at 29’58) holds no terrors for her.  There is no trace of distortion, or sonic compromise to achieve that lack of distortion.

Sidney C. Meyer (Emil Berliner Studios)Sidney C. Meyer (Emil Berliner Studios)

And let’s just also tip our hats here to the original recording team led by Günter Hermanns.  This was always a very good sounding recording, but now it is revealed as maybe Hermanns’ engineering and sonic masterpiece.

Günter HermannsGünter Hermanns

This is a very different aural picture from what we are familiar with from the best RCA Living Stereos, Mercurys, Deccas and EMIs that capture large orchestras playing in a well-defined acoustical space. It’s simply on a larger scale in every dimension.  It’s both massive and intimate - and that is quite a feat.  It definitely stands shoulder-to-shoulder with all those audiophile classics.

In a work which is all about juxtapositions of the epic and the intimate, this is an ideal sonic presentation.  The recording accommodates every dynamic and timbral extreme effortlessly.  No lover of classical music should be without this record in their library, and DG should not even hesitate to go right ahead with a repress.  This thing deserves to sell out immediately and then never be unavailable.  In a line of many first-class releases in the Original Source Series, including personal favorites like the Ozawa Symphonie Fantastique, Pollini’s Chopin Preludes, Steinberg's Hindemith record, and the Karajan Bruckner cycle (go back and read all my and Michael Johnson’s reviews), this one stands at the pinnacle.

I can think of few records that come so close to fully capturing the live experience of hearing an orchestra of this scale and quality pushing the envelope.  (Rainer Maillard’s D2D of the live BPO with Haitink doing Bruckner’s 7th is definitely in the same pantheon).

This release captures something really special: a moment in recording history, lightning in a bottle.  It conveys to thrilling effect the full force of what made Karajan and the Berliners of this period unique and, in many ways, still unequalled.  Hell, it might even convert the Karajan naysayers!

Herbert von Karajan

Music Specifications

Catalog No: 486 6710

Pressing Plant: Optimal

SPARS Code: AAA

Speed/RPM: 33 1/3

Weight: 180 grams

Size: 12"

Channels: Stereo

Source: 8-track Master Tape

Presentation: Multi LP

Comments

  • 2025-02-15 08:09:51 PM

    Come on wrote:

    Wow, so much better sounding than the disappointing (in this regard) 5th? Will try it, thanks!

  • 2025-02-15 09:24:16 PM

    Josquin des Prez wrote:

    Fascinating review, and I always enjoy your writing. I think I'll break out my Solti/CSO this afternoon. I have to wait another month for my KvK copy, and I don't have the original (yeah, I know).

    • 2025-02-16 07:29:29 PM

      Mark Ward wrote:

      Solti is really good, and of course the Decca sound is rich and immediate. Sorry you have to wait a month...

  • 2025-02-15 10:50:58 PM

    markhold wrote:

    This is a superb review and has me very excited to receive my copy of the M6 soon.

    I have listened to the new Rattle version a number of times which is very good indeed, but the Karajan seems to be on another level entirely.

    • 2025-02-16 07:31:44 PM

      Mark Ward wrote:

      At the very least, I think Karajan is a necessary library occupant. The sound on this version, though, takes it way beyond. I need to listen to the new Rattle, though in all honesty I usually find he does not live up to the hype.

      • 2025-02-19 05:53:29 PM

        NLak wrote:

        No, he doesn’t, since he left the CBSO in 1998, I have found everything he touches uninspiring. Last week I started listening to his live Die Schopfung, and could not finish it. I think there are more enjoyable Mahler recordings than his.

  • 2025-02-16 12:38:59 AM

    Thomas Ream wrote:

    Mark, as usual you take the reader on a deep and fascinating journey in your reviews....there aren't many Mahler controversies, but there is this one with respect to the order of the movements. I have not heard a recording with the scherzo placed third, but I have read about them, and there have been reviewers who have asserted that this is how Mahler wanted it...but I have heard other writers indicate that Mahler himself wasn't quite certain, up to his death, and that authoritative sources (Alma? Mengleberg? ) stated that his final wish was scherzo second. Like you, I prefer the scherzo second - to me the Andante is a gut wrenching experience and needs to lead into the final movement. I only own a few recordings of the 6th - Kubelik (too fast, in my view), Bernstein on DG and Columbia, Szell (not heard in a long time), Leinsdorf (not heard yet) and MTT with the SFS - all have the scherzo second. The only other Mahler controversary that comes to mind might be the 10th. Do you play just the Adagio, a completion (and if so, which one?) or ignore it. I have never heard a completion of the 10th live, but I heard MTT and the SFS play the Adagio- which Mahler clearly intended to be surrounded by other movements - it didn't work for me as a standalone work. But the 10th I know best - Wyn Morris doing Cooke 2 - also doesn't fully work...so maybe Solti had a point not taking the 10th up at all. Looking forward to hearing this Karajan recording. I guess the other Mahler controversy might be whether to include the opening movement of Das Klagende Lied, or not.

    • 2025-02-16 07:36:27 PM

      Mark Ward wrote:

      Thanks for your comment and detailed feedback. I really like the second Rattle recording of the 10th with the Berliners on EMI - one of his best recordings. Is it really Mahler? Good question. I'll take it though. And yes to extra movement of Das Klagende Lied! I simply do not understand putting the Andante second - it shortchanges everything.

  • 2025-02-16 02:01:04 AM

    Come on wrote:

    With a little more time now referring to your fantastic writing once more…I‘m really looking forward getting this one, it’s ordered. You touched me by asking and answering what makes Mahler so special.

    It is very special for me as I more or less grew up with his music and loved it from the beginning. In simple words…it is so deep, no matter what’s the style of the movement. Not just opulent or dramatic, it’s seriously deep. Like Wagner’s music (for me) is something shaking the emotions, the world just with a chord or just with the sequence of a few tones, Mahler beguiles with a similar seriousness and emotional world like no other except these two for me. Time seems to freeze with a supernatural aura. So if this is an essential recording, I’m in.

    • 2025-02-16 07:44:28 PM

      Mark Ward wrote:

      Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts. I think this record will connect with you profoundly. Mahler really is sui generis, for all the reasons you mention. I was so happy to come across the quote from Aaron Copland who really nails many aspects of what is unique about Mahler in musical terms.

  • 2025-02-16 02:07:10 AM

    Jeff wrote:

    Thanks for the great reviews of the newest batch Mark! Just ordered my copy of this Mahler and can't wait to receive it.

    • 2025-02-16 07:44:50 PM

      Mark Ward wrote:

      Thanks Jeff!

  • 2025-02-16 12:57:45 PM

    Jim wrote:

    Great review. Another DG recorded 6th which could be an interesting choice for the series: Kubelik’s 6th recorded as part of his Mahler cycle( 1967-70?). I was struck by the accessibility of the Kubelik with the contrasting shades of light and dark. His cycle had my undivided attention the first time I went through it. It changed my appreciation of Mahler.

    • 2025-02-16 07:48:12 PM

      Mark Ward wrote:

      Ah, you touch on an interesting point here. I've always found the sound on Kubelik's cycle somewhat off, but have wondered whether it really represents what's on the master tapes. Haven't played the 6th in donkey's years. However, Kubelik's 4th is one of my favorites, and I turn to it often. (I am hoping DG might do Abbado's ravishing 4th in Vienna with Frederica von Stade in the OSS).

    • 2025-02-17 08:11:36 PM

      Thomas Ream wrote:

      I have the Kubelik set on LP (the box) and also on RTR tape. I haven't heard the latter yet - a recent acquisition. My appreciation of his 6th is less than yours, although I would admit that this could be biased based on my own view of the 6th as a work that is for me difficult to hear. Kubelik's cycle seems to be more in line with the concept that Mahler was a romantic and a descendent of Schumann and Mendelssohn, rather than an angst-filled prophet of the 20th century - e.g., a different approach than Bernstein. I have admiration for Kubelik as a conductor - for me the Ma Vlast and the Bartok are highlights of the OSS, and I have always wanted to hear the later recordings of Mahler made for Audite - some say that these are superior to the earlier DG efforts, recorded after he and the Bavarians had further experience with the works.

      • 2025-02-20 03:31:45 AM

        Mark Ward wrote:

        Yes, I've heard great things about the Audite releases, though have yet to hear them. Love the OSS Bartok! Ma Vlast is a work I tire of quickly, and have yet to hear the OSS version - though people I trust have spoken very highly of it.

  • 2025-02-16 05:02:01 PM

    EAD wrote:

    Thanks, Mark for the erudite article on Gustav Mahler’s “Tragische Sypmphonie” and this enthusiastic review. You really have a way with words! I have ordered this reissue and have to be patient for it to arrive.

    In our last exchange on TA you asked what my opinion is on the Kirill Petrenko Rachmaninov box (issued by Berliner Philharmoniker Media – also available as download). To recapitulate my response there I absolutely love the box. I have listened to it again several times since that post and I love this box even more! Favourite is the tone poem (The Isle of the Dead) on disc 1. To complete the “Kirill Petrenko Russian trilogy”, I have ordered a near new Tchaikovsky 6 (collecting is addictive). So, a lot of goodies are on their way ;-).

    You mentioned Bruno Walter in your review. I had heard of his fame, but I acquired the Brahms box, Beethoven box and Mozart/Haydn box relatively recently (CDs, yea I know ;-)). The recordings are almost all in stereo (from end fifties / the beginning sixties of the past century) and they sound great (for a CD). I have several recordings of Brahms’ Haydn Variations and Bruno Walter’s version has become my favourite. Best wishes to you.

    • 2025-02-16 07:59:52 PM

      Mark Ward wrote:

      Thanks so much for the complement. Will have to pick up the Petrenko Rachmaninov set! That Tchaikovsky 6th is stellar! As I mentioned in my Petrenko review, imagine getting Prokofiev symphonies and ballets from him and the BPO - I salivate at the prospect... I am assuming all these recent Bruno Walter CDs are the same remasterings that are in the big box (which I own), I love these performances, and the latest remasterings are excellent. BTW I listen to CDs all the time, and these latest Sony boxes of Walter, Szell, Ormandy etc. are the best these recordings have ever sounded (apart from the occasional audiophile vinyl reissue from Classic, Cisco, AP and Speaker's Corner). The Haydn Variations is my favorite Brahms work, and when I was recently gathering up my favorite records for possible evacuation I included Pierre Monteux's recording, coupled with Elgar's "Enigma" Variations with the LSO, on the Classic Records reissue of the RCA Living Stereo original. I urge you to seek this one out.

      • 2025-02-17 05:33:43 PM

        David Catchpole wrote:

        A hard to find, but fantastic recording of Mahler 6 is Thomas Sanderling w/ St. Petersburg Philharmonic. Is is a 90s digital recording by the Italian Label Dapro, but the sound is good and the performance and devastating.

      • 2025-02-17 05:33:44 PM

        David Catchpole wrote:

        A hard to find, but fantastic recording of Mahler 6 is Thomas Sanderling w/ St. Petersburg Philharmonic. Is is a 90s digital recording by the Italian Label Dapro, but the sound is good and the performance and devastating.

      • 2025-02-17 05:33:47 PM

        David Catchpole wrote:

        A hard to find, but fantastic recording of Mahler 6 is Thomas Sanderling w/ St. Petersburg Philharmonic. Is is a 90s digital recording by the Italian Label Dapro, but the sound is good and the performance and devastating.

        • 2025-02-20 03:32:48 AM

          Mark Ward wrote:

          Yes, you are not the first person to praise this one highly. A further nudge for me to check it out...

  • 2025-02-17 08:01:56 AM

    TJH wrote:

    Hello Mark, I am triggered to believe in each and every of your words in this fantastic review of yours. Thank you for resurrecting my interest in these DG/OSS releases (which I lost due to repeating pressing and also packaging issues and the associated return pains). Luckily, in a few days I will hear and see it for myself, and I sincerely hope that my now refreshed believes will be justified. Again, thank you for the thorough and inspiring review.

    • 2025-02-20 03:33:57 AM

      Mark Ward wrote:

      I am so sorry you have had bad luck with the pressings - fingers-crossed. It's a great reissue series. If only Decca and EMI would do something similar...

  • 2025-02-17 11:56:32 PM

    Come on wrote:

    After your mention of the Pollini in this article, I tried the digital version (and the Ashkenazy) and although the digital version will surely sound much worse than the OS vinyl, I agree with your finding that the taller sound esthetic fits the performance and the pearling Chopin pieces very well. Ordered, thanks!

    • 2025-02-20 03:34:20 AM

      Mark Ward wrote:

      Great!

  • 2025-02-19 07:09:11 PM

    Paul Seydor wrote:

    Mark, What a fantastic review!—one of your very very best (which is saying a lot): informative, eloquent, written con amore and con passione. Many thanks for the call out, relative to which, it’s sometimes said that one of the greatest compliments one critic can pay to another is say that he or she changed my mind about a judgment—or at least got him to take another look. Double compliments in this case, my friend. When TA published the announcement of the Karajan Mahler 6th, I left a long comment. If I can dig it up, I’ll send it along here (the announcement page seems to be deleted). No matter: a few decades ago or longer I reviewed for TAS the Bernstein/CBS (now Sony) box of the Mahler symphonies. Those were in the days when virtually every Bernstein Mahler performance imprinted itself on me, none more so than that New York Philharmonic Sixth: both it and his Vienna/DG are towering performances, but if pushed to a choice I think I’d opt for the NY: it has a passion, an intensity, and a vision of such devastating power that it takes me hours to come down from it every time I listen to it. Back in the day, most others sounded restrained, pallid, even puny beside it. I especially disliked Karajan’s because it struck me as just plain too damn beautiful. In that Bernstein piece I made some disparaging remarks about Karajan’s that I wholly regret and wish I could withdraw. As soon as your announcement appeared on TA, I went on Qobuz and listened to Originals reissue of Karajan’s. Well, it doesn’t shatter me the way Bernstein’s does with its scorched earth vision, but it is surely one of the really really great ones. Karajan somewhere said that while he understood how music must sometimes be ugly, it should be ugly in a beautiful way. Fair enough, and the problem I always had with Karajan’s Mahler sixth—and some of his other musicmaking too—is that the opening of the last movement sounds almost impressionistic.

  • 2025-02-19 07:09:51 PM

    Paul Seydor wrote:

    [continued from previous]. Well, that was then, and now is now. It still sounds that way, but this is only to say that it’s a different interpretation, a different vision, and there’s no doubt that Karajan’s a real vision of the piece (something I would say of relatively few other recordings). How’s this for a characterization: Bernstein is devasting like the blast over Hiroshima, where almost nothing is left standing; Karajan is devastating like any of many cities in Europe were: not so completely destroyed that all remnants of their former beauty were gone, the reminders only deepening the tragic effect. Both powerful but differently so—and no reasons why we can’t contain both: we can be large, we can contain multitudes. Thanks, Mark, for a wonderful essay and for getting me to open my ears again to something I had dimissed entirely too hastily and for hardly the best of reasons so long ago.

    • 2025-02-20 03:46:02 AM

      Mark Ward wrote:

      Ah, thank you Paul for the highest of all complements. I must re-visit Bernstein's NYPhil recording - didn't have time to while writing this review, just re-listened to the later DG (I have the complete vinyl reissue sets of both CBS/Sony and DG). I must say I love these earlier CBS recordings. I also have a very special place in my heart for Bernstein's live No. 2 from Ely. Despite the massive acoustic this has something really special, and it was my introduction to Mahler when I watched the original broadcast. Imagine the impact of that - seeing Lenny in full flight, and hearing Mahler for the first time! Your visual description of the two relative approaches of Bernstein and Karajan is absolutely dead on - not surprisingly. How wonderful that we have both men's Mahler 6. And yet again, huge kudos to the EBS team for the work they are doing!

  • 2025-02-19 07:16:56 PM

    Paul Seydor wrote:

    You know, writing this piece reminded me of something the late film critic Stanley Kauffmann one wrote in a review in which he was reassessing a film he had reviewed,, none too favorably, decades earlier. It led him to wonder how many opinions, judgments, evaluations he was carrying around in his head that he no longer believed. I run into this all the time when it comes to music. When I first got into classical music sixty some years ago, I bought into the party line in some circles about Klemperer's Beethoven symphonies (the last cycle for EMI, in stereo): slow, stodgy, unexciting, plodding. A few years ago I picked up a big box on them (remastered for CD) and started listening and found them bloody wonderful. Out goes that early set of opinions! Another example: when I very young and knew everything, I was part of that benighted set who disparaged Brahms's symphonies by comparison to Beethoven's. Can you imagine such a thing? I threw that set of judgments out far sooner than I did the ones about Klemperer's Beethoven, still--it makes one thing: how many things do we think we believe that if examined we'd discover we don't any longer or at least don't in the same way?

    • 2025-02-20 03:55:18 AM

      Mark Ward wrote:

      I had exactly the same experience with Klemperer! My initial negative impression of him was formed by seeing him conduct a Beethoven cycle live on BBC right at the end of his life when I was in my early teens. He seemed so completely ga-ga, and the performances were so slow, that it all turned me off any of his records for decades. Fast forward to the 90s when I started to get into this whole vinyl thing seriously, and I picked up some OGs of his Columbia records. Complete about-turn, including vis-a-vis his Beethoven cycle. His Brahms is glorious too. Re. Brahms, since you are an Angeleno you will appreciate this. I used to love reading Alan Rich in the LAWeekly, probably my favorite writer on classical in a daily/weekly/monthly along with Alex Ross at the New Yorker. But you may recall Rich LOATHED Brahms, and I could never quite figure that one out. How was that possible? But your point about revising one's opinions is so, so valid. I do often wonder whether Pauline Kael, if alive today, would be changing her mind about some films...

      • 2025-02-20 03:34:03 PM

        Paul Seydor wrote:

        I knew Pauline a little toward the end of her life--she did something for which I am so grateful regarding my work on Peckinpah (which I'll save for another day)--but she was famous for never changing her mind, something she was rather proud of. Makes no sense to me--one doesn't grow or at least change over decades? Yikes! 😱 Re: Alan Rich. I enjoyed him too--I even met him once at a party at Rene and Robina's (Goiffin and Young of Harmonia Mundi USA fame) and found him a delilght to talk with (in person he was lovely, not in the least the prickly fellow who often came through the reviews). (Brahms didn't enter the conversation.) Yes, now I can't imagine not loving Brahms, and even when I stupidly denigrated the symphonies next to Beethoven’s, in my heart of hearts I knew that I actually did like them, but my youthful arrogance wouldn’t allow me to admit it. BTW: I always loved the Requiem, and Karajan's DG recording from the sixties was my favorite--I played it over and over. Klemperer's is of course great too. You know another great Klemperer His recording of the Grosse Fuge arranged for orchestra. Speaking of the Grosse Fuge, hey, DG, how about an OSS of Karajan's wonderful sixties disc that paired his recoding of the Grosse Fuge with his magnificent, still unsurpassed, Metamorphosis? Do you know this record, Mark? Wow. Re: the Grosse Fuge, you'd think my reservations about Karajan's Beethoven symphonies-- too smooth with too much surface beauty--would make me dismiss his performance. Not at all: in fact, there's something rather extraordinary about hearing what Karajan does with this uncompromising music, demonstrating that it can inhabit a completely different sound world and still be what Stravinsky called it: called it: that “absolutely contemporary piece of music that will be contemporary forever."

        • 2025-02-20 06:59:07 PM

          Thomas Ream wrote:

          FWIW, I had a lot of trouble appreciating Brahms at first. I studied the first piano concerto in college, and did not like it....and I was very influenced by the critic B.H. Haggin, a confirmed Brahms-hater - he used words like artificial, manipulative, saccharin, etc, to describe the music. The recordings that got me over the hump were the first Abbado DG set of the symphonies, recorded with 4 orchestras. I still like that set, and it would be one of the two I would retain if I could only have two (the other would be Walter's stereo set).

  • 2025-02-19 10:15:34 PM

    Michael Fremer wrote:

    The recording is stunning as Mark writes it is. If you go to the Gryphon cartridge review you'll find a binaural excerpt recorded through my speakers into a dummy head (mine). You must listen using headphones but if you do that, you'll get some idea of how good the recording is....

    • 2025-02-20 02:47:35 AM

      Paul Seydor wrote:

      The OSS is not yet available (though I've ordered my copy), but, as noted, I listened to the Originals' remastering on Qobuz and it's still damn good there, Michael. I dearly wish DG would release Bernstein's Stravinsky Les Noces in this series: there's another stunner (and the original vinyl release is excellent or better--doesn't feel as if it's one of DG's let's wimp out on this one.

      • 2025-02-20 03:59:03 AM

        Mark Ward wrote:

        I have lobbied for both the Bernstein Les Noces and his Beethoven String Quartets (the latter of which I discovered after you raved about it back in the 90s in one of your TAS pieces). Fingers crossed...

        • 2025-02-20 03:15:46 PM

          Paul Seydor wrote:

          The services DG has done for Bernstein's Beethoven and Mahler sets notwithstanding (but did Mallard and Meyer have anything to do with either of them?), DG seems to me curiously diffident about giving the full-bore treatment to their extensive holdings of his recordings during the last half of his career. (Shades of Karajan’s lingering fears of allowing Bernstein to conduct Berlin?) In addition to the quartets--BTW: the 131 has quite excellent sound as it is, but let's have a new vinyl all the same--how about the following: his Brahms 4th with Vienna; the two Shostakovich symphonies 1 and 9 with Vienna; and the Mozart Jupiter and 40th, which get rosettes in the Penguin Guide? The "Jupiter" is one of the greatest recordings of that symphony ever made, and it is certainly the greatest modern recording in the traditional mode (i.e., non-HIP). His Mathis de Maler is fantastic--yes, I know, they've already released the equally fantastic Steinberg, so what--but speaking of Tchaikovsky, which we weren't but I am now, how about the Francesca da Rimini with Israel--again, the Brits especially regard this as greatest since the famous Stokowski from the latest fifties I think it was. Then there's the Faust symphony with Boston a specialty chez Bernstein. And how about the Schumann symphonies with Vienna? Then, too, back to Mozart: there's the Mozart C-minor mass in Bavaria, which is widely regarded as one of the great performances of this particular piece. And speaking of Bavaria, there's the Haydn Theresia mass and The Creation, not to mention the two symphonies—hey, DG, have you forgotten Bernstein is widely regarded as one of the greatest of all Haydn conductors (HC Robbins-Landon considered him better than Beecham)? Back to Beethoven: he was always one of the greatest conductors of the Missa Solemnis—his CBS recording is the one that put him on the map as a Beethoven conductor, and his DG recording is in the same league. Speaking of the Concertgebouw, which is whom he recorded it with, the book “1000 Recordings You Must Hear Before You Die” lists his lovely Schubert 5 and 8 (the 9th is pretty wonderful too). If you’re still with me, I’ve saved one of the most important of all for last: the thrilling Carmen, both a performance and a sonic reference of mine for decades now. Rainer and Sydney, you’ve got your work cut out for you!

          • 2025-02-21 04:49:24 PM

            Come on wrote:

            Do you (or Mark) know if that Carmen beats the Solti/Domingo? I have the Mofi box release of the latter and it’s fantastic, also in sound.

    • 2025-02-20 03:56:34 AM

      Mark Ward wrote:

      So glad you got a chance to audition the Mahler for your review. Loved listening to the binaural recording!

  • 2025-02-21 07:02:00 PM

    Swann36 wrote:

    Thank you Mark for once again a review that for this newcomer to classical is both informative and so engaging, just given my copy a listen while reading your explanations of the wonderful music I’m hearing it adds so much for me, sadly as side one has several clicks and pops that I might just live with, however side 4 is riddled with non fill I can’t live so this particular album is going back and I hope I have better luck with the replacement.. not withstanding the defects you have certainly made my life richer with your thoughtful piece here, many thanks